avet sx - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tattuna · 12-12-2009, 06:23 PM

I'm surprised to hear you guys don't like the palomar. It's about the only knot I use. I landed a 35 lb yt in the Sea of Cortez this summer on a locked drag that worked me like no other fish ever has and the knot held up fine even though it pulled so hard it bent my Megabait!

I've always used a bimini to albright, but it's a lot of tying. Recently switched over to the Alberto knot (modified albright?), and it's a lot easier to tie and supposed to be stronger. http://www.stripersonline.com/Pages/...tos_knot.shtml Only thing I've pulled on it with so far is a rock

but the connection held and it snapped on the mono.

Pescavore1 · 12-12-2009, 10:16 PM

I've been using the World's Fair Knot exclusively for about 7 years. It's easy as the Palomar knot but I believe it is much stronger. One thing I don't like about the Palomar knot is that the lines sometimes cross and cut into itself, whereas the WF Knot does not. I've caught up to 50# albie and WSB with it.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/917445...ot_how_to_tie/

Billy V · 12-13-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pescavore1

I've been using the World's Fair Knot exclusively for about 7 years. It's easy as the Palomar knot but I believe it is much stronger. One thing I don't like about the Palomar knot is that the lines sometimes cross and cut into itself, whereas the WF Knot does not. I've caught up to 50# albie and WSB with it.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/917445...ot_how_to_tie/

That has been my experience with the Palomar knot. Even if you are careful when tying it, sometimes it happens.

lamb · 12-13-2009, 07:42 AM

I think sometimes chit happens just because it's meant to be... regardless of your knot.

Good stuff. All of these knots are good, some people seem to prefer one over the others.

Since I'm lefty, I've mostly been winding Avets. I got 4-5 SXes. I put 250 to 300 yards of 40# spectra, (lately 50#, mostly because at Squidco never seem to have 40#

). Since that won't fill up your spool, you need to put some mono backing - the same or heavier line than your spectra strength. Squidco guys do it for me, ditto on them using Albright. That will give you plenty of line, especially for the kayak, as the "tow me around please" button is always in auto mode. You will not have to worry about being spooled.

I'm a knot retard, and I was never comfortable in my skills when it comes to tieing mono and spectra together for the few feet of floro top shot. I just use a 2 way swivel. I've never regretted it. Do not spare a few $$ on quality floro for the top shot. Some days it won't matter, floro or not. They ARE days when it definitely matters.

For the hook or a jig, I use San Diego knot. You do need to have something to jam your hook against when tightening it - plenty of eyelets on a kayak for that

dmrides · 12-14-2009, 12:47 PM

This has been really helpful thread.

I was curious about using the JD Dropper and wanted to give it a try. Does anyone know where I could find clear plastic tubing with that small of a diameter?

Thanks.

Fiskadoro · 12-14-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dmrides

This has been really helpful thread.

I was curious about using the JD Dropper and wanted to give it a try. Does anyone know where I could find clear plastic tubing with that small of a diameter?

Thanks.

It's 1/8 Pneumatic tubing. I get mine a Graingers supply local in LA. I know there's one not too far from La Jolla but I can't remember exactly where it is.

Jim

PescadorPete · 12-14-2009, 02:23 PM

I use the Sinker Slides for this rig. Its popular on the East Coast for flounder and fluke fishing.

12-12-2009, 06:23 PM	#1
tattuna Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pasadena Posts: 329	I'm surprised to hear you guys don't like the palomar. It's about the only knot I use. I landed a 35 lb yt in the Sea of Cortez this summer on a locked drag that worked me like no other fish ever has and the knot held up fine even though it pulled so hard it bent my Megabait! I've always used a bimini to albright, but it's a lot of tying. Recently switched over to the Alberto knot (modified albright?), and it's a lot easier to tie and supposed to be stronger. http://www.stripersonline.com/Pages/...tos_knot.shtml Only thing I've pulled on it with so far is a rock but the connection held and it snapped on the mono. __________________ IG @tattuna

12-12-2009, 10:16 PM	#2
Pescavore1 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Scripps Ranch Posts: 82	World's Fair Knot I've been using the World's Fair Knot exclusively for about 7 years. It's easy as the Palomar knot but I believe it is much stronger. One thing I don't like about the Palomar knot is that the lines sometimes cross and cut into itself, whereas the WF Knot does not. I've caught up to 50# albie and WSB with it. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/917445...ot_how_to_tie/

12-13-2009, 07:42 AM	#4
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	I think sometimes chit happens just because it's meant to be... regardless of your knot. Good stuff. All of these knots are good, some people seem to prefer one over the others. Since I'm lefty, I've mostly been winding Avets. I got 4-5 SXes. I put 250 to 300 yards of 40# spectra, (lately 50#, mostly because at Squidco never seem to have 40# ). Since that won't fill up your spool, you need to put some mono backing - the same or heavier line than your spectra strength. Squidco guys do it for me, ditto on them using Albright. That will give you plenty of line, especially for the kayak, as the "tow me around please" button is always in auto mode. You will not have to worry about being spooled. I'm a knot retard, and I was never comfortable in my skills when it comes to tieing mono and spectra together for the few feet of floro top shot. I just use a 2 way swivel. I've never regretted it. Do not spare a few $$ on quality floro for the top shot. Some days it won't matter, floro or not. They ARE days when it definitely matters. For the hook or a jig, I use San Diego knot. You do need to have something to jam your hook against when tightening it - plenty of eyelets on a kayak for that __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

12-14-2009, 12:47 PM	#5
dmrides Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Point Loma Posts: 584	JD Dropper This has been really helpful thread. I was curious about using the JD Dropper and wanted to give it a try. Does anyone know where I could find clear plastic tubing with that small of a diameter? Thanks.