Watch out for the DFG guy. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Hunters Pa · 06-03-2010, 08:40 PM

Should have a net, even if stowed, in case they really want to be a pain

MrPatrick · 06-03-2010, 08:59 PM

and a whistle

Billy V · 06-03-2010, 09:14 PM

If you're out at night on the kayak you need some type of light.

Good to carry one because sometimes its dark when you land.

dsafety · 06-03-2010, 09:17 PM

Maybe some of you were just having a little fun but I doubt the DFG cares about whistles or even PFDs. I am not sure about the net however. I know that is a requirement on some inland waters. Anyone know for sure about the ocean?

Since this is not Arizona, I guess we will not have to be able to prove that we are legal residents. Sometimes I wonder exactly how I would prove that I am legal. A drivers license and credit cards would not do it because anyone can get those. The only thing I can think of that would work for sure is a passport.

Note to self... next time I go to visit my son in Arizona, be sure to pack the passport.

Bob

Aaron · 06-03-2010, 09:37 PM

I'm happy to get checked by the DFG. Makes me feel like I got my money's worth out of my license. lol.

If you ever have the time, schedule a ride-along with a DFG warden. You'll quickly see why they may be a bit "pessimistic" when they approach you. I got a ticket once for shooting ducks in a poorly marked restricted area on Baldwin Lake in Big Bear and decided I should go on a ride along with the very cop that wrote me the ticket. I quickly realized the BS that they put up with. 90% of the boaters we stopped at random on Big Bear Lake did not have a fishing license. We were lucky if they weren't drunk as well. Then came the excuses...blah blah blah, standard stuff.

If a Warden asks you to open up your hatch, you don't have to. You can ask them to get a warrant. If its not in plain view, you're covered under search and seizure constitutional rights. But why bother? I'll gladly open up my hatch for the guys that are keeping the idiots out of the water that are scooping up 18" WSB and kill everything else in site. I'll gladly take out my fishing license to show that I paid into our fisheries so that Game Wardens can crack down on those that don't. I've been good to those guys and have received some great info that resulted in me shooting more birds and catching more fish. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but since getting a ticket and going on a ride along I have a bunch more respect for those guys. But I get it that they can sometimes come off a bit harsh.

Dan · 06-03-2010, 09:43 PM

totally agree with sapdawg. dfg field agents are the good guys.

robmandel · 06-03-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan

totally agree with sapdawg. dfg field agents are the good guys.

most definitely!!! lady up in malibu is very cool. got checked a couple of times, no problem. she isn't power trippy at all. quite the opposite. in fact, I've never had a bad experience with them, ever.

and remember, the warden's association is on record opposed to the MLPA. they've even said there's no way they can or will enforce it. honestly, dfg and us are on the same side. they're good people, doing a tough ass job. we oughta be as cool with them as we can.

sandydiego · 06-04-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by robmandel

most definitely!!! lady up in malibu is very cool. got checked a couple of times, no problem. she isn't power trippy at all. quite the opposite. in fact, I've never had a bad experience with them, ever.

and remember, the warden's association is on record opposed to the MLPA. they've even said there's no way they can or will enforce it. honestly, dfg and us are on the same side. they're good people, doing a tough ass job. we oughta be as cool with them as we can.

I totally agree.

Hunters Pa · 06-04-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by robmandel

most definitely!!! lady up in malibu is very cool. got checked a couple of times, no problem. she isn't power trippy at all. quite the opposite. in fact, I've never had a bad experience with them, ever.

and remember, the warden's association is on record opposed to the MLPA. they've even said there's no way they can or will enforce it. honestly, dfg and us are on the same side. they're good people, doing a tough ass job. we oughta be as cool with them as we can.

Yep Rob, I remember her at the Kahuna series. I was so impressed that I went into the DFG office in Cypress & filled out a commendation form for how well she fit in and the courteous manner she did her job. Her name is Cindy Wood, and having a commendation in her file due to her interaction with the kayak nation ain't gonna hurt our future interactions.

I'll complain when it's warranted, but I try to make the effort to make sure management gets the good feedback that is usually earned but never rendered

batty1of3 · 06-03-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sapdawg711

I'm happy to get checked by the DFG. Makes me feel like I got my money's worth out of my license. lol.

If you ever have the time, schedule a ride-along with a DFG warden. You'll quickly see why they may be a bit "pessimistic" when they approach you. I got a ticket once for shooting ducks in a poorly marked restricted area on Baldwin Lake in Big Bear and decided I should go on a ride along with the very cop that wrote me the ticket. I quickly realized the BS that they put up with. 90% of the boaters we stopped at random on Big Bear Lake did not have a fishing license. We were lucky if they weren't drunk as well. Then came the excuses...blah blah blah, standard stuff.

If a Warden asks you to open up your hatch, you don't have to. You can ask them to get a warrant. If its not in plain view, you're covered under search and seizure constitutional rights. But why bother? I'll gladly open up my hatch for the guys that are keeping the idiots out of the water that are scooping up 18" WSB and kill everything else in site. I'll gladly take out my fishing license to show that I paid into our fisheries so that Game Wardens can crack down on those that don't. I've been good to those guys and have received some great info that resulted in me shooting more birds and catching more fish. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but since getting a ticket and going on a ride along I have a bunch more respect for those guys. But I get it that they can sometimes come off a bit harsh.

here here i am always happy to see the dfg guys out and about poachers beware i still wear my license in plain sight and mebbe its a bit mean but i love watching them run up on a bucketeer at the bay and whip out that ticket book for no license and undersized fish

Lord Matthew34 · 06-03-2010, 11:13 PM

I'm of the mindset that I have nothing to hide and anyone is welcome to check my vessel. As long as you're following the rules then all it costs you is about 3 min's out of your life. BTW i got stopped by a pretty hot dfg chick last week at the dana launch ramp. Would be cool if there were more of them around

j mo · 06-04-2010, 06:01 AM

The LJ DFG are good folks, doing their Jobs for the most part. They catch "idiots" every season for taking shorts and 1 too many WSB's.

Cardiff State beach park rangers that hide in the bushes and try to pull an "ahhh ha!" on you assuming you've done something wrong are another story...

Gino · 06-04-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dsafety

Maybe some of you were just having a little fun but I doubt the DFG cares about whistles or even PFDs. I am not sure about the net however. I know that is a requirement on some inland waters. Anyone know for sure about the ocean?

Since this is not Arizona, I guess we will not have to be able to prove that we are legal residents. Sometimes I wonder exactly how I would prove that I am legal. A drivers license and credit cards would not do it because anyone can get those. The only thing I can think of that would work for sure is a passport.

Note to self... next time I go to visit my son in Arizona, be sure to pack the passport.

Bob

When you buy a fishing liscense, the vendor is supposed to check your drivers liscense and compare it with what you have written on the fishing lisecense. A fishing liscense can be a form of pseudo Identification.
Not sure how Arizona has anythign to do with DFG asking for your liscense.

dsafety · 06-04-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gino

Not sure how Arizona has anything to do with DFG asking for your license.

Sorry, just a lame attempt at some political humor. I will drop that one from my next standup routine.

On a more serious note, I would really like to know if we are supposed to pack nets when fishing in the ocean. I could not find anything on the DFG site so I sent them an email. Today was a mandated furlough day so no one was working at the DFG today, (does this make sense to anyone?).

If I get an answer, I will post it here.

Bob

GregAndrew · 06-04-2010, 08:21 PM

Yes, a net is required by the DFG. It is supposed to have an opening of at least 18 inches. In practicality though, they rarely ask if you have one and really do not care if it is a bit smaller than 18 inches.

I don't think that the DFG will enforce the PFD requirement, but the Coast Guard and Harbor Police can and do.

I am fairly certain that a single white light is required on your yak at night, but also not enforced by the DFG.

06-03-2010, 08:59 PM	#2
MrPatrick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waiting to launch Posts: 1,381	and and a whistle

06-04-2010, 06:01 AM	#12
j mo Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Encinitas Posts: 600	The LJ DFG are good folks, doing their Jobs for the most part. They catch "idiots" every season for taking shorts and 1 too many WSB's. Cardiff State beach park rangers that hide in the bushes and try to pull an "ahhh ha!" on you assuming you've done something wrong are another story... Last edited by j mo; 06-04-2010 at 06:16 AM.

06-03-2010, 08:40 PM	#1
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,361	Should have a net, even if stowed, in case they really want to be a pain

06-03-2010, 09:14 PM	#3
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	If you're out at night on the kayak you need some type of light. Good to carry one because sometimes its dark when you land.

06-03-2010, 09:17 PM	#4
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	Maybe some of you were just having a little fun but I doubt the DFG cares about whistles or even PFDs. I am not sure about the net however. I know that is a requirement on some inland waters. Anyone know for sure about the ocean? Since this is not Arizona, I guess we will not have to be able to prove that we are legal residents. Sometimes I wonder exactly how I would prove that I am legal. A drivers license and credit cards would not do it because anyone can get those. The only thing I can think of that would work for sure is a passport. Note to self... next time I go to visit my son in Arizona, be sure to pack the passport. Bob

06-03-2010, 09:37 PM	#5
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	I'm happy to get checked by the DFG. Makes me feel like I got my money's worth out of my license. lol. If you ever have the time, schedule a ride-along with a DFG warden. You'll quickly see why they may be a bit "pessimistic" when they approach you. I got a ticket once for shooting ducks in a poorly marked restricted area on Baldwin Lake in Big Bear and decided I should go on a ride along with the very cop that wrote me the ticket. I quickly realized the BS that they put up with. 90% of the boaters we stopped at random on Big Bear Lake did not have a fishing license. We were lucky if they weren't drunk as well. Then came the excuses...blah blah blah, standard stuff. If a Warden asks you to open up your hatch, you don't have to. You can ask them to get a warrant. If its not in plain view, you're covered under search and seizure constitutional rights. But why bother? I'll gladly open up my hatch for the guys that are keeping the idiots out of the water that are scooping up 18" WSB and kill everything else in site. I'll gladly take out my fishing license to show that I paid into our fisheries so that Game Wardens can crack down on those that don't. I've been good to those guys and have received some great info that resulted in me shooting more birds and catching more fish. I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but since getting a ticket and going on a ride along I have a bunch more respect for those guys. But I get it that they can sometimes come off a bit harsh.

06-03-2010, 09:43 PM	#6
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	totally agree with sapdawg. dfg field agents are the good guys.

06-03-2010, 11:13 PM	#11
Lord Matthew34 Mad Yakker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: La Mesa Posts: 38	I'm of the mindset that I have nothing to hide and anyone is welcome to check my vessel. As long as you're following the rules then all it costs you is about 3 min's out of your life. BTW i got stopped by a pretty hot dfg chick last week at the dana launch ramp. Would be cool if there were more of them around

06-04-2010, 08:21 PM	#15
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	Yes, a net is required by the DFG. It is supposed to have an opening of at least 18 inches. In practicality though, they rarely ask if you have one and really do not care if it is a bit smaller than 18 inches. I don't think that the DFG will enforce the PFD requirement, but the Coast Guard and Harbor Police can and do. I am fairly certain that a single white light is required on your yak at night, but also not enforced by the DFG.