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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Santee, CA
Posts: 103
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#2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Cypress, CA
Posts: 789
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I'm on it...
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Rancho Cucamonga
Posts: 753
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Done
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#4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 427
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DONE!
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#5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Orange
Posts: 207
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sent.
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#6 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Riverside
Posts: 108
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Done.
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#7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
Posts: 1,382
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It looks awfully quite around here
Could it be that everyone on BWE has sent out this simple but urgent letter ?? Hmmm.... Could it be that everyone is out of town and has no internet ?? Hmmm.... Could it be that no one gives a shit anymore ?? Hmmm.... Well I can promise you this - those rat bast*rd environmental terrorists are going to take full advantage of any lapse or lull we allow. Thats right, we have seen all the dirty tricks they have pulled over the Year Plus of our Fight to Preserve Kayak and Spear Fishing in this State. Everyone on this site - as well as BD, Spearboard, Baytubers, ets. has a common interest and goal and we need to stay united. Please send in this letter today - or asap tonight before the opportunity is gone. -Just like your fishing rights. This means ALL the Members, and their Families as well. -Yes I said your Families. I flew out members of my family to help during this MLPA Nightmare and they always sent in the letters we needed. (Remember the grammar school children the environmental terrorist were exploiting at the MLPA Meetings ?) -Don't let up -Don't allow this injustice. -Fight to Win. Now attack ! |
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#8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alhambra
Posts: 506
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done!
save our freedoms, don't let the bureaucrats dictate what they think is appropriate for us. we need to tell them who they are working for; not the other way around. |
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#9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 103
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Pretty sure that you understand there is an actual need for conservation.
When you call someone that disagrees with you over a matter of policy a "terrorist" that makes it impossible to ever find any sort of compromise or common ground. Not cool. Also, no one that is in the middle or sitting on the fence will ever take you seriously. |
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005
Location: 2 inches above sea level
Posts: 503
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BRTF...bought & paid...
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,247
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As the meetings progressed, it was obvious that some people did not play by the rules. Even in War you have Rules of Engagement. We, kayakers, spearfishers, boaters, shorefishers, all agreed there needed to be conservation. We did all we could to compromise without losing vital fishing grounds. We gave areas in hopes of keeping certain areas. We even suggested slot limits. All fell on deaf ears, they had an agenda and planned, yes planned, to make sure their agenda would be met. Terrorists are funded. Someone supplies them with the weapons, they don't play by the rules. Maybe calling an eco-friendly environmental a terrorist is a bit harsh, I'll give you that. But, had you been at some of the meetings, it would be very likely that your stance would definitely sway, especially watching groups come together with agreed upon compromises, a closure here, full closure there, to keep certain fishable areas open. Then, swoosh comes the rug from under your legs, it's suddenly, as in without notice, decided that the whole process was wrong and needed to be done over again. A key member of the BRTF would suddenly admit it was his fault, and the whole process would need to be 'reevaluated'. New lines would have to be drawn up, even though they had 'insufficient data' to move forward. The 'insufficient data' would be included in the process, even though it wasn't thoroughly evaluated. The best part was how, even though this was supposed to be an open forum, as in, a fair and open process, that was not to be. Speaking time was cut short, interrupted, or the speaker was admonished by the chairman for speaking his thoughts. We were told that we had to be 'courteous' in our speeches or we would be cut off. So much for free speech. Meanwhile, the conservationists were allowed to speak first (before the certain board members, er, bored members, got bored), school children bused in as class assignments and told what to say, probably for extra credit, even though when offered a free half-day fishing pass hands shot up in the air. And the beauty of it, the absolute beauty of it all, when we showed up at one meeting wearing black shirts as a sign of unity, we were the ones branded as using 'threatening and intimidating' antics, only to see in subsequent meetings the 'other side' handing out t-shirts stating MLPA's Work, even though no MLPA's had been in force. So let's do a recap... It is well known that the MLPA process is funded. Look it up, do some research, and you will find the power players behind it... It is also well known that certain members of the BRTF are on other boards...again, look it up. It is also well known that certain members were relegated to other positions regarding their views of this whole process, with others put in place who agreed to take on the task of accomplishing the funded mission. Translation = they didn't do a good job. It was also quite obvious that the issue was not about the Clean Water Act as it was supposed to be about. Kind of like the Somali pirates who say they are protecting their fishing grounds from outsiders, yet hijack cruise ships. Or oil tankers. And it was indeed quite obvious that it was not about fishing conservation when you have key members of the Laguna Beach community explicitly state that they don't like to see kayakers, boaters, spearfishers disrupting their entitled right to view the ocean. So let's see...a terrorist is funded, doesn't play by the rules, and uses whatever means necessary to achieve their goal, all based on having the same viewpoint of their benefactor. So maybe 'terrorists' was too strong of a word...please enlighten us on a new word to call them so that we may submit it to Noah Webster...
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park
Posts: 51
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Most people outside of our fishing circles who hear about the MLPA are instantly on our side. They think it's amazing the government is even considering what the enviro terrorists wackos have proposed, let alone already passed it. One post on my FB page generated 87 signatures against the MLPA and I only have 120 "friends." That's why I've proposed a ballot initiative to uphold our constitution and protect fishing. We would win that battle. |
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BRTF...bought & paid...
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,247
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Ooooh, thanks for that Kurt.
Nice to see that the Packard foundation may ultimately have thrown away alot of $ and the terminator is now caught up in his true actions... Richards said he is speaking out because Schwarzenegger can’t do anything to him like he did to Sutsos. “I’m confirmed, and he can’t pull me off the Commission,” Richards said. “He’s stuck with me.” Richards predicted that the MLPA closures will be overturned in court once all the corruption is exposed that went on with the process. He said a judge will look at the lack of time given for the environmental document in the South Coast Region and throw the document out. ![]()
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Newbury Park
Posts: 51
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Done. And true to form I included part of the California state constitution...
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS Section 25. The people shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water containing fish that have been planted therein by the State; provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season when and the conditions under which the different species of fish may be taken. |
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#15 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 99
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Escondido<->Carlsbad
Posts: 81
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