diving near lobster buoys - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

flydigital · 10-08-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

I've regularly seen traps go back over the side by commercial guys working them with shorts left in them...Whether they're close to legal and expect them to molt or whether they come back on a "slow" day and poach em out...I don't know. Just saying...

Commercial traps have mandated escape ports for undersized lobster. Most shorts left in it would escape (eventually). Not sure why they would leave them in there though, makes no sense (just to eat bait then walk out or be thrown out later?). While there are always bad apples out there, I seriously doubt the majority of commercial guys would mess with shorts. There is too much on the line. They get plenty of legal "market size" lobster without the undue risk of dealing with shorts.

Gino · 10-08-2010, 01:31 PM

I think the Commerical Lobstering has a seperate size regulation Than we have. Im not to sure though.

bubblehide · 10-09-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flydigital

Commercial traps have mandated escape ports for undersized lobster. Most shorts left in it would escape (eventually). Not sure why they would leave them in there though, makes no sense (just to eat bait then walk out or be thrown out later?). While there are always bad apples out there, I seriously doubt the majority of commercial guys would mess with shorts. There is too much on the line. They get plenty of legal "market size" lobster without the undue risk of dealing with shorts.

Generally, those that are left in, are marked by them and or F&G, usually a couple of ways, one being a transferable ink that is visible under UV light; it's an instant bust, an easy nab, and constitutes several crimes; if they catch you with lobster also, it could easily be a felony.

T Bone · 10-10-2010, 07:34 AM

Personally,I am glad that F & G treats lobsters and poaching so seriously.If they didnt we probably wouldnt have any.

Just look at what happened to local Abalone...

Aaron · 10-10-2010, 09:46 AM

Diving near their traps is just asking for it. Sometimes its unavoidable, but if I were a commercial guy and saw bubbles or a light hanging out for a bit too long around my gear, I'd be waiting for some soon to be bruised divers to surface.

The UV light thing is weird to me and seems like they would have a hard time getting that to go in court. Unless they can absolutely, "beyond all reasonable doubt", PROVE that it is impossible for those marked lobsters to escape or somehow be reintroduced to the wild legally (ie, commercial guy clearing his trap), how can they convict anyone? Let's say you legally grab a legal sized, marked lobster that has escaped or that some commercial guy accidently threw back. You'd be fucked if DFG stopped you and did the test. Even if only the shorts were marked, you'd still be in a whole different world of trouble when accused of robbing traps than simply coming up with a short lobster. Do they have some way of combatting this?

sdcityboy · 10-10-2010, 08:56 PM

yeah, sounds kinda like my dad sayin if we pee'd in the pool it would turn blue.

CandyCatcher · 10-11-2010, 06:52 AM

If you have to ask the question......YOURE TOO CLOSE TO THEM!

Besides...your way better off finding your own little honey hole not someone elses....

10-10-2010, 07:34 AM	#4
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	Personally,I am glad that F & G treats lobsters and poaching so seriously.If they didnt we probably wouldnt have any. Just look at what happened to local Abalone... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

10-10-2010, 08:56 PM	#6
sdcityboy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: south park (san diego),CA Posts: 119	yeah, sounds kinda like my dad sayin if we pee'd in the pool it would turn blue. __________________ he hates these cans!

10-08-2010, 01:31 PM	#2
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	I think the Commerical Lobstering has a seperate size regulation Than we have. Im not to sure though.

10-10-2010, 09:46 AM	#5
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	Diving near their traps is just asking for it. Sometimes its unavoidable, but if I were a commercial guy and saw bubbles or a light hanging out for a bit too long around my gear, I'd be waiting for some soon to be bruised divers to surface. The UV light thing is weird to me and seems like they would have a hard time getting that to go in court. Unless they can absolutely, "beyond all reasonable doubt", PROVE that it is impossible for those marked lobsters to escape or somehow be reintroduced to the wild legally (ie, commercial guy clearing his trap), how can they convict anyone? Let's say you legally grab a legal sized, marked lobster that has escaped or that some commercial guy accidently threw back. You'd be fucked if DFG stopped you and did the test. Even if only the shorts were marked, you'd still be in a whole different world of trouble when accused of robbing traps than simply coming up with a short lobster. Do they have some way of combatting this?

10-11-2010, 06:52 AM	#7
CandyCatcher Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ventura to LJ Posts: 69	If you have to ask the question......YOURE TOO CLOSE TO THEM! Besides...your way better off finding your own little honey hole not someone elses....