Am I damaging my kayak? Pics taken - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wiredantz · 02-02-2011, 10:57 PM

I noticed on my last trip that the bottom molding on one side the kayak is beginning to stick out.

This is how i normally store the kayak the side that the kayak is resting on is the side with the molding beginning to stick out:

(please no comments on my garage)

Here are the pictures of the molding beginning to stick out:

I recently change the side the kayak is resting on to this:

Thank you for your comments in advance.

bubblehide · 02-03-2011, 12:05 AM

I can't really see anything from your pics. Yet, from your pics I would think the way you store the yak would create any issues. However, the plastic yaks are subject to changes in shape from exposure to heat; it softens them which makes them susceptible to changes in shape from pressure and gravity.

I do however have no idea of what your referring to as molding.

jorluivil · 02-03-2011, 01:53 AM

Have a yard, get rid of a bunch of that crap in your garage and build a hoist system. Kayak are molded plastic but will and contour itself to whatever its sitting on. One day I left mine on a sawhorse for 30minutes in the sun and when I finally realized what I did it had already molded itself to the shape of the area that was supporting it. Now I never lay it flat or on its side for long periods.

Building a hoist system is easier than you think. Since you have the space for it why not do it?

Deamon · 02-03-2011, 05:34 AM

How much for the fish I.D. cards sitting on the chair?

wiredantz · 02-03-2011, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Deamon

How much for the fish I.D. cards sitting on the chair?

lol.. i made those 6 dollars at kinkos i printed them from department of fish and game

mtnbykr2 · 02-03-2011, 06:54 AM

yeah, I wouldn't leave your boat layin like that, if you have to store it on its side I would make or get those wall mount brackets for the yak, however I believe the hoist/sling idea is best...see ya saturday channel 78....b

maui jim · 02-03-2011, 06:55 AM

Thats one expensive hat rack

wiredantz · 02-03-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by maui jim

Thats one expensive hat rack

The picture with the two arrows show about 1 or 2 mm of the bottom park of the kayak sticking out from the side. I have brick walls covered with cement so the only way i can store a kayak is probably with a hoist system. Anyone know of a good hoist system...

Jimmyz123 · 02-03-2011, 07:00 AM

It may not have to do with how you store you Kayak but how you transport your Kayak. When you transport it do you do so with it up on the side like you store it or do you lay it down either top up or top down? Also what type of straps are you using to secure it to your vehicle? Are you using the rachet style or the type that sinch down.

Here's why I ask about the straps, if you are using the rachet style you could be racheting them too tight and if the Kayak is left on the roof in the sun for any length of time while strapped down it could be causing that bulging. When I went to pick up my Yak from Jim Sammons and he saw I was using the Rechet straps and that was the first thing he recommended I change due to the chance it can cause issues with deforming. I have actually read many articles and talked to many people that sell kayaks and they all say the best way to store a Kayak is on its side.

wiredantz · 02-03-2011, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

It may not have to do with how you store you Kayak but how you transport your Kayak. When you transport it do you do so with it up on the side like you store it or do you lay it down either top up or top down? Also what type of straps are you using to secure it to your vehicle? Are you using the rachet style or the type that sinch down.

Here's why I ask about the straps, if you are using the rachet style you could be racheting them too tight and if the Kayak is left on the roof in the sun for any length of time while strapped down it could be causing that bulging. When I went to pick up my Yak from Jim Sammons and he saw I was using the Rechet straps and that was the first thing he recommended I change due to the chance it can cause issues with deforming. I have actually read many articles and talked to many people that sell kayaks and they all say the best way to store a Kayak is on its side.

this is what i use:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...G4nAsAO_nK2cCg

When I am by myself i put it upside down on my roof rack and run the ties through the scupper holes and tie it to my rack.

When i take the other one, i put one upside down and the other on the J Rack.

Iceman · 02-03-2011, 07:28 AM

The "molding" looks like you are referring to where the two pieces of the mold come together and were not trimmed as well as they should have in production. It is purely cosmetic. Storing your kayak on it's side is ideal....you are not harming it.

wiredantz · 02-03-2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

The "molding" looks like you are referring to where the two pieces of the mold come together and were not trimmed as well as they should have in production. It is purely cosmetic. Storing your kayak on it's side is ideal....you are not harming it.

Thanks Andy, i was going to take it to you for some plastic surgery.

maui jim · 02-03-2011, 01:58 PM

How much for the AC? so I can cool my fish down...

wiredantz · 02-03-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by maui jim

How much for the AC? so I can cool my fish down...

That is a special device that keeps the fish at a cold temperature and it goes in side the x-factor and keeps the fish fresh while in the hot sun, i have it attached to the flux capacitor.

Lets_Fish · 02-03-2011, 07:42 PM

Here is a mobile rack that you can make to store your yak on along with other gear.

http://www.kayakfishinghole.com/comm...ead.php?t=1179

Here is another (not mobile): http://www.stacksandstacks.com/delux..._content=40030

I have one of my yaks hanging from a hoist so its out of the way and the other, well just sits half on a crate and the other half on the yak cart. I know this is not ideal, but don't have the room to hang the second. Oh and no deformation on the hull either.

wiredantz · 02-06-2011, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

The "molding" looks like you are referring to where the two pieces of the mold come together and were not trimmed as well as they should have in production. It is purely cosmetic. Storing your kayak on it's side is ideal....you are not harming it.

Iceman,

Today I was cleaning my kayak putting a coat of UV protector and i sanded down the edge of the kayak where it was sticking out. You were correct it was purely cosmetic.

Every time i go out I inspect the kayak to make sure its still seaworthy.

wiredantz · 03-25-2011, 08:52 PM

OK GUYS THE NEW AN IMPROVED KAYAK RACK SYSTEM...

BUILT BY ME DARKNACHOS!!!!!!

jorluivil · 03-25-2011, 11:48 PM

Haven't had that yard sale, have you?

roadx · 03-26-2011, 06:43 AM

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BUILT BY ME DARKNACHOS!!!!!!

usually only tell the ladys this but nice rack

Iceman · 03-26-2011, 06:47 AM

Excellente!

02-02-2011, 10:57 PM	#1
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Am I damaging my kayak? Pics taken I noticed on my last trip that the bottom molding on one side the kayak is beginning to stick out. This is how i normally store the kayak the side that the kayak is resting on is the side with the molding beginning to stick out: (please no comments on my garage) Here are the pictures of the molding beginning to stick out: I recently change the side the kayak is resting on to this: Thank you for your comments in advance.

02-03-2011, 06:55 AM	#7
maui jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 789	Thats one expensive hat rack __________________

02-03-2011, 07:00 AM	#9
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	It may not have to do with how you store you Kayak but how you transport your Kayak. When you transport it do you do so with it up on the side like you store it or do you lay it down either top up or top down? Also what type of straps are you using to secure it to your vehicle? Are you using the rachet style or the type that sinch down. Here's why I ask about the straps, if you are using the rachet style you could be racheting them too tight and if the Kayak is left on the roof in the sun for any length of time while strapped down it could be causing that bulging. When I went to pick up my Yak from Jim Sammons and he saw I was using the Rechet straps and that was the first thing he recommended I change due to the chance it can cause issues with deforming. I have actually read many articles and talked to many people that sell kayaks and they all say the best way to store a Kayak is on its side. Last edited by Jimmyz123; 02-03-2011 at 07:02 AM. Reason: grammer edit

02-03-2011, 07:28 AM	#11
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	The "molding" looks like you are referring to where the two pieces of the mold come together and were not trimmed as well as they should have in production. It is purely cosmetic. Storing your kayak on it's side is ideal....you are not harming it. __________________

02-03-2011, 01:58 PM	#13
maui jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 789	How much for the AC? so I can cool my fish down... __________________

02-03-2011, 12:05 AM	#2
bubblehide Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 552	I can't really see anything from your pics. Yet, from your pics I would think the way you store the yak would create any issues. However, the plastic yaks are subject to changes in shape from exposure to heat; it softens them which makes them susceptible to changes in shape from pressure and gravity. I do however have no idea of what your referring to as molding.

02-03-2011, 01:53 AM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Have a yard, get rid of a bunch of that crap in your garage and build a hoist system. Kayak are molded plastic but will and contour itself to whatever its sitting on. One day I left mine on a sawhorse for 30minutes in the sun and when I finally realized what I did it had already molded itself to the shape of the area that was supporting it. Now I never lay it flat or on its side for long periods. Building a hoist system is easier than you think. Since you have the space for it why not do it?

02-03-2011, 05:34 AM	#4
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	How much for the fish I.D. cards sitting on the chair?

02-03-2011, 06:54 AM	#6
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	yeah, I wouldn't leave your boat layin like that, if you have to store it on its side I would make or get those wall mount brackets for the yak, however I believe the hoist/sling idea is best...see ya saturday channel 78....b

02-03-2011, 07:42 PM	#15
Lets_Fish Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Wildomar, CA. Posts: 294	Here is a mobile rack that you can make to store your yak on along with other gear. http://www.kayakfishinghole.com/comm...ead.php?t=1179 Here is another (not mobile): http://www.stacksandstacks.com/delux..._content=40030 I have one of my yaks hanging from a hoist so its out of the way and the other, well just sits half on a crate and the other half on the yak cart. I know this is not ideal, but don't have the room to hang the second. Oh and no deformation on the hull either.

03-25-2011, 08:52 PM	#17
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	OK GUYS THE NEW AN IMPROVED KAYAK RACK SYSTEM... BUILT BY ME DARKNACHOS!!!!!!

03-25-2011, 11:48 PM	#18
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Haven't had that yard sale, have you?

03-26-2011, 06:47 AM	#20
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	Excellente! __________________