To do a fishing report or not to do a fishing report?

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Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

Mr. Day, that is not me on allcoast.....

LMAO!!! Yeah... Sure... and it's not you here either I suppose

That's the beauty of you using these stupid aliases, it's never you, it's always some other concerned poster, that never seems to post except when you have an agenda or an axe to grind, and need to get a few anonymous jabs in

Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

i linked to the story you were talking about.

I saw that. Of course there were other threads involved, and like Gary said it looks like someone sanitized (edited) the threads. That said... if you can read past the attacks in the second one there is still some good stuff there.

For instance I posted:

Originally Posted by Jim Day

Kayaking gives us and advantage with prespawn fish that no-one else can capitalize on, so it's not going to hurt the fishery to talk about targeting prespawn Seabass. I guess you could say that I have learned the difference between a prespawn bite, and the wide open bite that comes with the spawn, and figured out that we can catch them in prespawn mode when no-one else can. Prespawn the fish are in the kelp are sluggish, not very active, they do not move around much and do not want to fight current or chase down bait. We all know what a spawning bite is, when it's wide open and anyone can catch them but with prespawn fish you have to be there at the right place, at the right time, and present a bait right in front of a fishes nose to get bit. It's literally that the fish are lazy, because they are conserving energy for the spawn.... Party boats and private boaters can not fish those prespawn fish because they do not have the maneuverability or the time to wait them out, get right in front of them and then present a bait with enough finesse to get bit like we can do in a kayak. Is it a wide open thing where you get fish all the time, hell no!!! You have to fish the crap out of them to catch fish in a prespawn pattern. There's a lot of variables that have to line up: the current has to be right and you have to be in the right place at the right time, with the right bait, so it's more of a patience stalking and waiting game, but if you put in the time you can get some real trophies fishing prespawn fish from a kayak even if they are almost impossible to catch any other way....

Anyone can clearly read that in the middle of that web lynching I was still trying to help people catch fish, but additionally it's clear that my own words, from your link prove the original point that I made here in this thread.

I did not post about a wide open squid bite. I did not expose a C-bass bite where Sportboats could gang together to slaughter huge schools of fish. The people that said I did were just full of it, using it as an excuse to attack, and it's obvious they had another agenda.

I was simply trying to help people get on fish that only kayakers could catch, from a scratch bite that clearly was never wide open. It was early May the water was still cold in the fifties up there. The fish were the kelp hardly moving at all. A few people got them through persistence but there was never wide open bite at BKR.

The truth is even though I've fished there for decades, I have never, ever posted a wide open BKR bite online in over a decade of posting on all of the various sites I've contributed to.

Last time I mentioned a wide open seabass bite online was the epic Rocky Point bite back in the late nineties. I certainly was not the only one, the web thing was new and we didn't know better, but I learned my lesson back then. 250 boats a day on that bite by midweek, probably over a thousand fish killed, and a bite that never materialized in those same numbers again. That's the kind of thing that leaves a lasting impression.

You see unlike some I have been around long enough to know that there are things you can post and things you can't. You wont see me posting a wide open inshore C-bass bite online that could lead to the kinds of overfishing you describe. You won't see me posting lobster reports when I'm hooping local that could lead to huge even dangerous crowds at my local breakwalls. You say you have read all my posts on multiple sites. Alright you want to post links well try and find a single report I have posted that lead to the massive overfishing you describe. Out of thousands of posts and hundreds of reports to choose from you cant' do it. I don't post those things because I know better based on experience.

This is not really a black or white, post reports or never post reports issue. It's really about educating people what they can and can not share online.

There are timely reports you can post: like solo fish that do not come off hot bites, or fish taken right before a cold front or blow out where the conditions are going to change.

You share what you can report wise and then fill in the gaps with technical info. I try to help people out and share what I can, but even then I run into trouble with the share no info, don't tell anyone where we fish, post only misinformation crowd.

My take is that's purely do to different agendas. Some just want to control the dialogue, promote their little cliques, then toot their own success at the expense of others. Others actually want to educate people and help them become better fisherman. I'm the latter, and my take is if your not here to help people catch fish then why bother with the boards at all.

Like I said: some people just give shit to who they want to. Some can post fish right in the middle of bite and don't get shit at all. Others post reports that could no way effect the bite and people go after them using it as an excuse even though their real agendas have nothing to do with the particular posting, or the actual fishing conditions.

Bottom line:The bite you and your buddies claimed I destroyed never existed. The whole blow up over posting the bite thing was just an excuse for you guys to push an agenda that had nothing to do with the original post, the actual fishing conditions at BKR or the phony wide open bite in May that was never even there.