Stoppd by the DFG - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Matt · 01-21-2012, 11:01 AM

I don't think anyone is "pro poaching" but everyone here is outraged at the unjust process that the Mlpa was forced upon us. Zero current research was used and so many back room deals were cut it was insane. Not "pro poaching" just anti bullshit!

bellcon · 01-21-2012, 12:00 PM

I saw the lobster pots yesterday; there is a line of them just outside the "old" boundary, so yes they are in the "new" boundary.

This is NOT about "honorable kayak guys so pro-POACHING"

it is about kayak guys who fought so hard against the f-ing sham of a process called the mlpa, that illegally took some of best fishing spots up and down the California coast!.

It is also about the relationships kayakers, spearos and the commercials tried to develop during the process, to do what we could together to stop the Bullchit train that was bent on running us over.

Like Bob I will always do what I can to stop poaching when I see it.
I will also abide by their new regs and mpa boundaries.
BUT I will NOT help the DFG or anyone else enforce the new MPA's!
F-them and their new boundaries.

It would be awesome if when those buoys are pulled up,
they are connected to a big rock with a note that says:
F--- the MLPA!.

PS
Can we just delete this post forever?
I doubt it will help our cause or look good for us in the long run...

RK · 01-21-2012, 12:15 PM

Bob what a donkey move...So I have you to thank for the dfg going through all my shit threatening to cite me when I'm a licensed fisherman. Rad bob so awesome of you....
Such a hero

I love the fact that guys that make a living doing something feeding there families and have probably been dropping pots in a area where there fathers a s grandfathers have for years continue to do so...
Poaching is gay
So are tattle tellers
But fishing isn't. Quit trying to be a vigilante and go fishing

RK · 01-21-2012, 12:17 PM

I'm with don on this one moderator pleaseDelete this post

WahooUSMA · 01-21-2012, 12:21 PM

Well I am probably going to get bitched slapped on this one. As retired LAPD Detective, I can tell you we cleared 75% of our cases by citizens such as Bob calling in with tips. And, as political as this may sound, we are a Nation of laws and we must obey by them - like it or not. I fucking hate the MLPA and their 'scientific research', etc. I hate everything they stand for, but what the fuck - We have to live with it for now. I am hoping that at some point, some sort of litigation will intervene and we can stop these liberal, eco-fuck nuts in their tracks.

While the MLPA is bad, I spent the better part of my adult life in law enforcement and the military dealing with the ALCU and Amnesty International, so right now I can handle the eco-wakos - In the big scheme of things, they are a pimple on my ass! I have better things to do with my time then worrying about the MPLA. Slamming a fellow kayaker for doing what he perceived as the right thing to do is BS. Way to stand up for what you believed in was right, Bob. The only other option you might have had was to lie-in-wait and confront the poachers by your lonesome. I guess the majority of the population on this board would have paddle up to commercial fisherman and advise them to pull up their catches, dump their nets and move on if they observed them poaching vs. calling the authorities……Yeah right.

Therefore, going forward, I will do what is right and you if you don't like it

dorado50 · 01-21-2012, 12:23 PM

Delete this thread like the liberal nuts deleted the recreational fishermans due process (and their right to fish)during the mlpa meetings?. C'mon man.

jorluivil · 01-21-2012, 01:16 PM

I bet you guys some MLPA dumbshit is reading this at laughing at how all of you are fighting with each other over what someone believes is right. If Bob wants to call the DFG let him call them, who are you to judge another man for what he believes in?

T-Rex · 01-21-2012, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

If Bob wants to call the DFG let him call them, who are you to judge another man for what he believes in?

George - I have no problem judging the actions of others. Bob has the right to call the DFG, and we all have the right to either agree or disagree with him.

rogersmith · 01-21-2012, 02:50 PM

sorry, no markers, no boundary. Would you pay a ticket for running a stop sign on an intersection with no sign? No way Jose. I'll see you in court. They want these bull $hit MPA, cough up the cash and make the effort to move the markers.

01-21-2012, 11:01 AM	#1
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	I don't think anyone is "pro poaching" but everyone here is outraged at the unjust process that the Mlpa was forced upon us. Zero current research was used and so many back room deals were cut it was insane. Not "pro poaching" just anti bullshit! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

01-21-2012, 12:00 PM	#2
bellcon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Pedro Posts: 999	I saw the lobster pots yesterday; there is a line of them just outside the "old" boundary, so yes they are in the "new" boundary. This is NOT about "honorable kayak guys so pro-POACHING" it is about kayak guys who fought so hard against the f-ing sham of a process called the mlpa, that illegally took some of best fishing spots up and down the California coast!. It is also about the relationships kayakers, spearos and the commercials tried to develop during the process, to do what we could together to stop the Bullchit train that was bent on running us over. Like Bob I will always do what I can to stop poaching when I see it. I will also abide by their new regs and mpa boundaries. BUT I will NOT help the DFG or anyone else enforce the new MPA's! F-them and their new boundaries. It would be awesome if when those buoys are pulled up, they are connected to a big rock with a note that says: F--- the MLPA!. PS Can we just delete this post forever? I doubt it will help our cause or look good for us in the long run... __________________

01-21-2012, 12:15 PM	#3
RK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 736	Bob what a donkey move...So I have you to thank for the dfg going through all my shit threatening to cite me when I'm a licensed fisherman. Rad bob so awesome of you.... Such a hero I love the fact that guys that make a living doing something feeding there families and have probably been dropping pots in a area where there fathers a s grandfathers have for years continue to do so... Poaching is gay So are tattle tellers But fishing isn't. Quit trying to be a vigilante and go fishing Last edited by RK; 01-21-2012 at 03:53 PM.

01-21-2012, 12:21 PM	#5
WahooUSMA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 753	Well I am probably going to get bitched slapped on this one. As retired LAPD Detective, I can tell you we cleared 75% of our cases by citizens such as Bob calling in with tips. And, as political as this may sound, we are a Nation of laws and we must obey by them - like it or not. I fucking hate the MLPA and their 'scientific research', etc. I hate everything they stand for, but what the fuck - We have to live with it for now. I am hoping that at some point, some sort of litigation will intervene and we can stop these liberal, eco-fuck nuts in their tracks. While the MLPA is bad, I spent the better part of my adult life in law enforcement and the military dealing with the ALCU and Amnesty International, so right now I can handle the eco-wakos - In the big scheme of things, they are a pimple on my ass! I have better things to do with my time then worrying about the MPLA. Slamming a fellow kayaker for doing what he perceived as the right thing to do is BS. Way to stand up for what you believed in was right, Bob. The only other option you might have had was to lie-in-wait and confront the poachers by your lonesome. I guess the majority of the population on this board would have paddle up to commercial fisherman and advise them to pull up their catches, dump their nets and move on if they observed them poaching vs. calling the authorities……Yeah right. Therefore, going forward, I will do what is right and you if you don't like it __________________ GO ARMY BEAT NAVY! Bad decisions make great stories!

01-21-2012, 01:16 PM	#7
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	I bet you guys some MLPA dumbshit is reading this at laughing at how all of you are fighting with each other over what someone believes is right. If Bob wants to call the DFG let him call them, who are you to judge another man for what he believes in? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

01-21-2012, 12:17 PM	#4
RK Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 736	I'm with don on this one moderator pleaseDelete this post

01-21-2012, 12:23 PM	#6
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Delete this thread like the liberal nuts deleted the recreational fishermans due process (and their right to fish)during the mlpa meetings?. C'mon man.

01-21-2012, 02:50 PM	#9
rogersmith Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 465	sorry, no markers, no boundary. Would you pay a ticket for running a stop sign on an intersection with no sign? No way Jose. I'll see you in court. They want these bull $hit MPA, cough up the cash and make the effort to move the markers.