Dana Point Hoopin' 3/2 - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Fishwhisperer619 · 03-03-2014, 08:02 PM

Popcorn ready

Big T · 03-03-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619

Popcorn ready

I know right? This is seriously hilarious. Wait! Oxymoron alert!

Watch, someone's gonna get pissed that I called someone a Moron.

Dannowar · 03-03-2014, 08:15 PM

Dude have you tried www.bloodydecks.com ?

Have a bwe vacation. On BD they're a lot nicer than we are with our name calling and ignorance

jorluivil · 03-03-2014, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannowar

Dude have you tried www.bloodydecks.com ?

Have a bwe vacation. On BD they're a lot nicer than we are with our name calling and ignorance

Here you only need a bag of popcorn, sometimes two but on BD you'll need Orville Redenbacher

Fishwhisperer619 · 03-03-2014, 09:11 PM

This should be settled at the rockfish derby. Side bets anyone?

ZUMAN · 03-03-2014, 09:32 PM

I think the original post should be a sticky......"What Not To Do"

What a blatant attempt to establish internet machismo!!

Assuming from your previous name that you have children?
The decision to paddle in those conditions is totally idiotic!!!

There's a fine line between adventure and stupidity

born2fish · 03-03-2014, 11:02 PM

Off topic

Do you know a good surf fishing spot near Dana Point for surf perch and hali?

Deamon · 03-04-2014, 04:53 AM

Big T, you've been around long enough to know the deal, right? Self deprecating humor, maybe receiving a kick if deserved or not..! I can help you fix this right up. Just tell me how to change my screen name buddy. I'll take care of these sum bitches no prob

Except Roby...I can't help you with that no good, sneaky, sticking dead trout in one's kayak hatch, wetting down other's sleeping bags, good for just about nothing Numba one a-hole. Okay, okay, maybe he pulled my ass out of the water in the dark of night..and maybe i was tangled up in a little bit of braid but so what, the water wasn't very cold. You know I turned in my Team Roby membership application months ago and haven't heard a damn thing? Sum bitch crab caca eating bottom feeder

Screen name change deal, Big T...pass it on brotha. Jim

wiredantz · 03-04-2014, 07:18 AM

Going out in a storm, SCARY!!!

Most of us have families that would like us to be safe out on the water. It is because they do not want to see our kids bury us.

We are a small kayak community, so someone always knows somebody that got injured or hurt in some way.

Stay Safe, and know your limit is the best advice I can give to you all.

Most of us here are not experienced to capsizing in huge storm swells, so we fear the thought of what you described.

Have fun.

P.S.

When I read your story I Imagined this:

In conditions like this:

bus kid · 03-04-2014, 07:49 AM

Rock fish here I come!

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kwest10 · 03-05-2014, 11:32 PM

I'll be your wingman! Live in Irvine and am always looking for a spotter out on the water. We don't have to share a meal or long showers after but having a partner on the open water at night is always a plus.

Big T · 03-04-2014, 07:59 AM

Admin changed the log-in name for me.

Aaron&Julie · 03-04-2014, 09:50 PM

I thought this chain would've died a couple of days ago.

Fact, is the guy wasn't ignorant and knew what he was getting into. With that knowledge, when his misfortune did happen, he handled it properly.

So he got shorts all night that doesn't indicate it was a waste of time, just poor luck. Sometimes dirty water from storms can be the ticket for a nice limit of bugs.
It wasn't, too bad for him on that result.

Everyone of us takes risks when venturing into the open waters. If you're a newbie, you'll usually start in bays to get a feel, then small surf, then bigger surf as your confidence rises.

By the time, Julie and I had enough experience in larger waves, we both launched in 4 foot surf in the dark, in the winter at LJ. About 4-5 other kayakers on the beach didn't dare, waiting 'til it got light out. I being the faster paddler, barely made it out, barely punching through, then slamming on the backside of 3 large waves, while getting drenched and wet up to my face, . When I looked for Julie, right after, she was no where to be seen. After a 10-15 minute wait, and just about to go back in, which I certainly didn't want to attempt a landing in that size surf in the dark, she comes paddling out. She didn't clear one of those good-sized sets, flipped, got banged up a little. After reflipping the kayak, getting her bearings together, she made it out on her next attempt. She's a helluva trouper. The thing is we knew the risk, had adversity, but prevailed. She caught her 1st WSB ever (about 30lbs) and and I caught a nice yellow of the same size. Her flip in the surf, while certainly a shock to her, was easily dismissed by her, and the smile on her face after getting that white, proved that.

We do believe in having a friend/partner with you when you can, especially in adverse conditions. She's not gone solo, and we stay close together when we both go. I've done maybe 3 solo bug trips, and maybe 6 solo LJ trips. It's safer and more enjoyable having partners like we do. But, we're not about to criticize those that do go solo.

We've both were knocked into the water of some rocks in South Laguna while shore fishing, by a sneaky wave. That shocked the hell out of us, too. I got to her and she clung to me while we swam back to the rock we fished from, crawling on mussel beds 'til we could get to our feet. We didn't lose either outfit we were using, learned some respect for how far out we should go on this island we waded to, and didn't have regrets for our "ADVENTURE", just another one, one we learned from, and we expect more adventures in the future, that may test our limits. We sure and hell don't give a shit if our adventure puts the world of kayak fishing in jeopardy from evening closures, or other repercussions. If that were the case, going on hikes in the wilderness, skydiving, hang-gliding, cliff climbing would all be outlawed, as their rate of injury/fatality is probably much higher than that of kayak fishing.

Grey whales have breached on Private boaters, killing all on board, not likely to happen, but if one did on your kayak, you'd be toast. Great whites have been known to attack kayaks. Surf landings themselves can be precarious, if flipped and the force of the wave knocks your kayak into an arm or a leg, it could be broken. Hell if it hit you in the head, it could knock you out. The more experience you have, the less likely surf landings will injure you.

I won't go into the incredibly difficult night bugging 2 days after the Japan Tsunami in SD Bay, supposedly when the threat of drastic swells, currents, and water level changes were supposed to have subsided, which they hadn't. It was vicious is all I'll say.

The risks are always there, so kudos to you Big T, way to correctly handle your situation.

Aaron

jruiz · 03-05-2014, 05:47 AM

Attitudes like this is what get's innocent people killed.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-n...ach-breakwater

roby · 03-04-2014, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon

Big T, you've been around long enough to know the deal, right? Self deprecating humor, maybe receiving a kick if deserved or not..! I can help you fix this right up. Just tell me how to change my screen name buddy. I'll take care of these sum bitches no prob

Except Roby...I can't help you with that no good, sneaky, sticking dead trout in one's kayak hatch, wetting down other's sleeping bags, good for just about nothing Numba one a-hole. Okay, okay, maybe he pulled my ass out of the water in the dark of night..and maybe i was tangled up in a little bit of braid but so what, the water wasn't very cold. You know I turned in my Team Roby membership application months ago and haven't heard a damn thing? Sum bitch crab caca eating bottom feeder

Screen name change deal, Big T...pass it on brotha. Jim

Hahaha....I miss you Jim.

From: The Other Slanted-Eyed Bastard

PJ · 03-04-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Big T

O...M...G... Those water bumps were epic last night!! Going out of the Dana Pt. Harbor, the waves were just pouring over the breakwall at high tide. Got out there at 6:30 or so. Rain rain and more rain. Every pull was 2-3 bugs.

50 bugs later (about 10 of them no bigger than my hand!) I was about to bring em in at around 3:45 then the harbor patrol came out and recommended that I not be out there.... Really? Where were they when the waves were ACTUALLY dangerous. It was dying down at that point. They also told me I was fishing to close to the mouth of the harbor... so I moved them all to the outer buoy line.

Just as I dropped my last hoop, the wind gusted REALLY hard! Come to find out it wasn't the wind blowing ME it was a wave carrying me with it just before it turned me over and swamped me...

Well, that just plain sucked. I righted the yak and just hung on it for a minute.... then the next wave came. Shit.

Got back on and paddled my ass outta that region. Grabbed all of my hoops and limped home. Went to Jack in the Box and ordered like 10 tacos and drove home.

Interesting night.

StinkyMatt · 03-04-2014, 04:50 PM

Big T,

When I first replied to your horror story, I replied because I was angry with you. I was upset because guys like you screw it up for the rest of us!

Guys who do not care about the consequences of their actions and only live for themselves bug the crap out of me.

Guys that repeatedly do the same STUPID stuff over and over again and do not learn......that is YOU.

You have done this stuff before...fell out of a skiff while fishing boilers in a storm......LEARN!

Flipped a yak/ tube at Cabrillo......LEARN!

Flip a kayak at Dana at night in a major storm......LEARN!

We all have mishaps and accidents...part of the game. However, you seem to be ignorant of the fact that you are doing something wrong that will affect you loved ones and other fishermen around you when it finally catches up to you.

YOU posted all these "adventures" of yours on public forums (BWE and BD)...you WILL get public comments.

Guys like you cost me freedoms.

Doing something bad like this ONCE.......= accident

Repeatedly banging your head against the wall.....= (you fill in the blank)

Not calling you names....just calling your actions......dumb.

jorluivil · 03-04-2014, 04:54 PM

With or without butter?

dorado50 · 03-04-2014, 06:27 PM

He purposely goes out into open waters with 10' + swells, storm surge, and wind waves on top of that. Disregards HP recommendation to abort. Proceeds to be swamped by unexpected large swell in the dead of night. Is luckily able to right his kayak. He purposely could have endangered the lives of HP and SAR if not for his heroic actions of self rescue!. That's what I'm talking about! Just awesome! This is why

.....If only I and others could be like you......

:notwort hy:

:no tworthy:

03-03-2014, 08:15 PM	#3
Dannowar Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,823	Dude have you tried www.bloodydecks.com ? Have a bwe vacation. On BD they're a lot nicer than we are with our name calling and ignorance __________________ "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity; lick it once and you’ll suck forever." — Brian Wilson

03-04-2014, 04:53 AM	#8
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	Big T, you've been around long enough to know the deal, right? Self deprecating humor, maybe receiving a kick if deserved or not..! I can help you fix this right up. Just tell me how to change my screen name buddy. I'll take care of these sum bitches no prob Except Roby...I can't help you with that no good, sneaky, sticking dead trout in one's kayak hatch, wetting down other's sleeping bags, good for just about nothing Numba one a-hole. Okay, okay, maybe he pulled my ass out of the water in the dark of night..and maybe i was tangled up in a little bit of braid but so what, the water wasn't very cold. You know I turned in my Team Roby membership application months ago and haven't heard a damn thing? Sum bitch crab caca eating bottom feeder Screen name change deal, Big T...pass it on brotha. Jim __________________ Recreational Fisherman's Catch...2% Commercial Fisherman's Catch- 98% Recreational Fishing Kayakers Catch- .00001% "The reality is that the wall was built to keep all Asians ~specifically Japanese and those that think they're japanese~ out of the U.S" Last edited by Deamon; 03-04-2014 at 06:37 AM.

03-04-2014, 07:18 AM	#9
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Going out in a storm, SCARY!!! Most of us have families that would like us to be safe out on the water. It is because they do not want to see our kids bury us. We are a small kayak community, so someone always knows somebody that got injured or hurt in some way. Stay Safe, and know your limit is the best advice I can give to you all. Most of us here are not experienced to capsizing in huge storm swells, so we fear the thought of what you described. Have fun. P.S. When I read your story I Imagined this: In conditions like this: __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it Last edited by wiredantz; 03-04-2014 at 07:27 AM.

03-04-2014, 07:49 AM	#10
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	Im so glad marce is here! Rock fish here I come! __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

03-04-2014, 09:50 PM	#13
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	I thought this chain would've died a couple of days ago. Fact, is the guy wasn't ignorant and knew what he was getting into. With that knowledge, when his misfortune did happen, he handled it properly. So he got shorts all night that doesn't indicate it was a waste of time, just poor luck. Sometimes dirty water from storms can be the ticket for a nice limit of bugs. It wasn't, too bad for him on that result. Everyone of us takes risks when venturing into the open waters. If you're a newbie, you'll usually start in bays to get a feel, then small surf, then bigger surf as your confidence rises. By the time, Julie and I had enough experience in larger waves, we both launched in 4 foot surf in the dark, in the winter at LJ. About 4-5 other kayakers on the beach didn't dare, waiting 'til it got light out. I being the faster paddler, barely made it out, barely punching through, then slamming on the backside of 3 large waves, while getting drenched and wet up to my face, . When I looked for Julie, right after, she was no where to be seen. After a 10-15 minute wait, and just about to go back in, which I certainly didn't want to attempt a landing in that size surf in the dark, she comes paddling out. She didn't clear one of those good-sized sets, flipped, got banged up a little. After reflipping the kayak, getting her bearings together, she made it out on her next attempt. She's a helluva trouper. The thing is we knew the risk, had adversity, but prevailed. She caught her 1st WSB ever (about 30lbs) and and I caught a nice yellow of the same size. Her flip in the surf, while certainly a shock to her, was easily dismissed by her, and the smile on her face after getting that white, proved that. We do believe in having a friend/partner with you when you can, especially in adverse conditions. She's not gone solo, and we stay close together when we both go. I've done maybe 3 solo bug trips, and maybe 6 solo LJ trips. It's safer and more enjoyable having partners like we do. But, we're not about to criticize those that do go solo. We've both were knocked into the water of some rocks in South Laguna while shore fishing, by a sneaky wave. That shocked the hell out of us, too. I got to her and she clung to me while we swam back to the rock we fished from, crawling on mussel beds 'til we could get to our feet. We didn't lose either outfit we were using, learned some respect for how far out we should go on this island we waded to, and didn't have regrets for our "ADVENTURE", just another one, one we learned from, and we expect more adventures in the future, that may test our limits. We sure and hell don't give a shit if our adventure puts the world of kayak fishing in jeopardy from evening closures, or other repercussions. If that were the case, going on hikes in the wilderness, skydiving, hang-gliding, cliff climbing would all be outlawed, as their rate of injury/fatality is probably much higher than that of kayak fishing. Grey whales have breached on Private boaters, killing all on board, not likely to happen, but if one did on your kayak, you'd be toast. Great whites have been known to attack kayaks. Surf landings themselves can be precarious, if flipped and the force of the wave knocks your kayak into an arm or a leg, it could be broken. Hell if it hit you in the head, it could knock you out. The more experience you have, the less likely surf landings will injure you. I won't go into the incredibly difficult night bugging 2 days after the Japan Tsunami in SD Bay, supposedly when the threat of drastic swells, currents, and water level changes were supposed to have subsided, which they hadn't. It was vicious is all I'll say. The risks are always there, so kudos to you Big T, way to correctly handle your situation. Aaron __________________ "Never say die" Last edited by Aaron&Julie; 03-05-2014 at 04:08 AM.

03-03-2014, 08:02 PM	#1
Fishwhisperer619 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: chula vista Posts: 323	Popcorn ready

03-03-2014, 09:11 PM	#5
Fishwhisperer619 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: chula vista Posts: 323	This should be settled at the rockfish derby. Side bets anyone?

03-03-2014, 09:32 PM	#6
ZUMAN Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calabasas Posts: 79	I think the original post should be a sticky......"What Not To Do" What a blatant attempt to establish internet machismo!! Assuming from your previous name that you have children? The decision to paddle in those conditions is totally idiotic!!! There's a fine line between adventure and stupidity

03-03-2014, 11:02 PM	#7
born2fish Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 92	Off topic Do you know a good surf fishing spot near Dana Point for surf perch and hali?

03-05-2014, 11:32 PM	#11
kwest10 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 37	I'll be your wingman! Live in Irvine and am always looking for a spotter out on the water. We don't have to share a meal or long showers after but having a partner on the open water at night is always a plus.

03-04-2014, 07:59 AM	#12
Big T Member, You Member! Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake Forest Posts: 254	Admin changed the log-in name for me.

03-05-2014, 05:47 AM	#14
jruiz Large Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 1,002	Attitudes like this is what get's innocent people killed. http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-n...ach-breakwater

03-04-2014, 04:50 PM	#17
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,168	Big T, When I first replied to your horror story, I replied because I was angry with you. I was upset because guys like you screw it up for the rest of us! Guys who do not care about the consequences of their actions and only live for themselves bug the crap out of me. Guys that repeatedly do the same STUPID stuff over and over again and do not learn......that is YOU. You have done this stuff before...fell out of a skiff while fishing boilers in a storm......LEARN! Flipped a yak/ tube at Cabrillo......LEARN! Flip a kayak at Dana at night in a major storm......LEARN! We all have mishaps and accidents...part of the game. However, you seem to be ignorant of the fact that you are doing something wrong that will affect you loved ones and other fishermen around you when it finally catches up to you. YOU posted all these "adventures" of yours on public forums (BWE and BD)...you WILL get public comments. Guys like you cost me freedoms. Doing something bad like this ONCE.......= accident Repeatedly banging your head against the wall.....= (you fill in the blank) Not calling you names....just calling your actions......dumb.

03-04-2014, 04:54 PM	#18
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	With or without butter? __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

03-04-2014, 06:27 PM	#19
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Mister T..My new action hero He purposely goes out into open waters with 10' + swells, storm surge, and wind waves on top of that. Disregards HP recommendation to abort. Proceeds to be swamped by unexpected large swell in the dead of night. Is luckily able to right his kayak. He purposely could have endangered the lives of HP and SAR if not for his heroic actions of self rescue!. That's what I'm talking about! Just awesome! This is why .....If only I and others could be like you......:notwort hy::no tworthy: