L.J. High Stick For The Day (Tues. 4/24 Late Report)

[seriola_killer]

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie

Crushed, no teeth marks, that certainly sounds like a yellow.
Too bad about the jackass that could have made it productive for him and you with a little common sense. Visually speaking, from what you said, it sounds like a good school of yellows you might have had a chance at until...
Thanks for the timely report, better luck next time, and congrats on your first LJ beach launch.

Why thank you kind sir and madam. As far as luck goes, I'll need plenty of it. But just being on the water, learning to read conditions better makes me the luckiest guy in the world. The fish, when they do manage to scarf down my offerings, are just an added bonus. At this point, I don't really care about the fish (not primarily, but secondarily of course). It's about paying dues and learning how to maximize my productivity to accelerate my learning curve.

One thing I don't want is to go out when it's just stupid good out there. I won't learn a thing. I like the challenge of a tough plunker-style bite because it forces me to think outside of the box.

When I take the plunge and go with Josh, I hope it's on a day when conditions are a bit tougher. If I go out when it's easy (for him) I won't learn as much. I wanna see that guy work for a bite, which I am sure he does far more often than not after my experience on Tuesday.

[radastaff]

Originally Posted by seriola_killer

Why thank you kind sir and madam. As far as luck goes, I'll need plenty of it. But just being on the water, learning to read conditions better makes me the luckiest guy in the world. The fish, when they do manage to scarf down my offerings, are just an added bonus. At this point, I don't really care about the fish (not primarily, but secondarily of course). It's about paying dues and learning how to maximize my productivity to accelerate my learning curve.

One thing I don't want is to go out when it's just stupid good out there. I won't learn a thing. I like the challenge of a tough plunker-style bite because it forces me to think outside of the box.

When I take the plunge and go with Josh, I hope it's on a day when conditions are a bit tougher. If I go out when it's easy (for him) I won't learn as much. I wanna see that guy work for a bite, which I am sure he does far more often than not after my experience on Tuesday.

it got kinda tougher later in the day
wind wipped up
and some white caps insued

i was also out there on tues
no prob with making bait
just no hits for me even after 11 hours

only saw Josh and client later on nerby
inspired me to stick it out and the afternoon settled down
but still nada

some birds werkin bait
later on too

[dorado50]

Originally Posted by seriola_killer

Why thank you kind sir and madam. As far as luck goes, I'll need plenty of it. But just being on the water, learning to read conditions better makes me the luckiest guy in the world. The fish, when they do manage to scarf down my offerings, are just an added bonus. At this point, I don't really care about the fish (not primarily, but secondarily of course). It's about paying dues and learning how to maximize my productivity to accelerate my learning curve.

One thing I don't want is to go out when it's just stupid good out there. I won't learn a thing. I like the challenge of a tough plunker-style bite because it forces me to think outside of the box.

When I take the plunge and go with Josh, I hope it's on a day when conditions are a bit tougher. If I go out when it's easy (for him) I won't learn as much. I wanna see that guy work for a bite, which I am sure he does far more often than not after my experience on Tuesday.

I do hope you get your wish and have alot of tuesdays ahead of you. Just not sure of your logic?. Catching a good fish just adds to the experience and learning curve in my opinion. Three simple stages of fishing...1) find the fish 2) catch the fish 3)land the fish. Hope you can someday think outside the box and put all three together.

[Aaron&Julie]

Originally Posted by dorado50

I do hope you get your wish and have alot of tuesdays ahead of you. Just not sure of your logic?. Catching a good fish just adds to the experience and learning curve in my opinion. Three simple stages of fishing...1) find the fish 2) catch the fish 3)land the fish. Hope you can someday think outside the box and put all three together.

Not to 'dis' you, Jerry, but I'll agree with Dorado. You'll find plenty of tough days. But, getting that first yellow or white on a 'yak is experience worth achieving, ASAP.
Also, it may have been your first instinct in thinking what you did about that bite you had, but I'm sure you reconsidered once you saw the bait. The bait would have teeth marks if a WSB or halibut. A dolphin taking your bait is probably one in a million, or more. Julie and I've been doing the LJ thing for over 6 years, seen 10,000 or more dolphins come right by us, not once, did they even slow down when we were soaking 4 live mackeral at the time. They're generally way too smart for that. In fact in 40+ years of ocean fishing I've never seen it happen, nor had any bonafide report of it happening. I suppose it's possible, and someone will probably chime in that they heard/saw/etc...
Now, if you're only left with the head of your mackeral on a good bite, 99% of the time or more, it's a seal. They are getting annoyingly smart, and will take your bait, often leaving the head.
Your "want to learn" attitude is refreshing. Hope some of this info helps.

[seriola_killer]

I guess I worded it poorly. Yes, of course, I want to catch fish. Otherwise I could have spent a helluva lot less money than I spent getting the Pro Angler. The thought I was trying to convey was that I'd rather learn and earn those fish than than simply catch a fish out of blind stupid luck.

[dorado50]

Again your logic escapes me!. Alot of my(and others I'm sure) best and biggest fish were caught on "blind stupid luck". This type of luck is very welcomed at tournament time by the way. Fish are caught in a variety of ways,no matter how or why. A PA won't help you catch fish any better than a float tube. I hope you figure it all out someday......

[seriola_killer]

Originally Posted by dorado50

Again your logic escapes me!. Alot of my(and others I'm sure) best and biggest fish were caught on "blind stupid luck". This type of luck is very welcomed at tournament time by the way. Fish are caught in a variety of ways,no matter how or why. A PA won't help you catch fish any better than a float tube. I hope you figure it all out someday......

Blind stupid luck hits all of us. My point was about learning taking a precedence over blind luck results. Yes, indeed, I want to catch fish. But I would like to catch fish knowing WHY I caught fish. That was my point, and my logic.

I wrote originally that as of right now my secondary priority was catching fish, not my top priority. What I meant was that learning was the top priority to me. The secondary priority would take care of itself if I took care of the top priority.

As far as the PA comment I originally made, I meant that if I had no interest whatsoever in catching fish I wouldn't have gotten it. Not sure what you were inferring regarding the float tube / PA in your reply as it didn't really have anything to do with my intention in the previous post when I made the PA comment.

[lamb]

Nice report, I like.
It's got that ol' school feel.
Ditto on likely yella' for that bite.
Sure you can figure it out yourself - hiring a guide will certainly shorten up the learning curve.
It doesn't sound like you're doing anything wrong - it's just the matter of time.

[Big T]

Originally Posted by dorado50

Again your logic escapes me!. Alot of my(and others I'm sure) best and biggest fish were caught on "blind stupid luck". This type of luck is very welcomed at tournament time by the way. Fish are caught in a variety of ways,no matter how or why. A PA won't help you catch fish any better than a float tube. I hope you figure it all out someday......

I kinda look at fishing how some look at a Hole-In-One on the golf course.... To get it to the green in one drive is pure skill. To make it directly into the hole on that same shot is pure luck. So getting on the fish, making bait takes "knowledge" but getting them to suck one down can be maddeningly random at times. So, SK.... be one with the randomness... Be 100% satisfied with dumb luck, just be sure to keep a mental note of what, when, where, why and how high you were when it happened and eventually that randomness becomes surprisingly predictable. Dunno HOW that happens...??

[dwntwnall4u]

I'd definitely would hire a professional guide at first so you can get the feel of a catching a primo sized fish. I went out with the Sea Samurai last December and I must say a 41 lb. YT sure hits like a freight train! And now I know I can handle it by myself next time.

So now I have a bit more confidence, but I'm definitely still far from a good kayak fisherman. Only time on the water will help get you better.