6/05 AM

[Matt]

I am always game to puke on a boat!! I even know just the place to get food poisoning!!! Dan good seeing you and happy to hand you some hooks, right after I did that I got sawed off by the cuda fest!! Got 2 baits stolen and was also buzzed by Ricardo cabeza a.k.a Jason (at least that is the name people have told me) of the dolphin, put a call into the coast guard but I doubt it will do much. Nice meeting you John!

Matt

[Siebler]

Dont go screwing with the Crew. Those guys work hard for little money as it is without somebody making their life harder thinking that itll hurt the captian. Trust me IT WONT, Jason is known as Ol' Dock 'n Dash, He doesnt clean the boat, his crew does. They are a great couple of guys, why make their life harder for no reason?

And Firing a jig at the boat will get you nowhere, Except maybe in trouble. Its not going to damage the boat, its alluminum.

While there is no reason for these guys to get close, Remember guys, The speed thing is because these boats IDLE at 7knts or so and the move a lot of water, which means that even at idle speed they make substantial wake.

Tim ran the boat today not Jason so if you go reporting stuff know who was running the boat.

Jason is running the Boat tommorow and i will be fishing it in the PM, If he gets too close you can be sure ill say something.

[dgax65]

Retaliation is always going to be counterproductive. Anything you do to a sport fishing boat is going to have negligible impact to the captain or the boat. It is much more likely that you will injure or piss off a paying customer. You'll also wind up with 45 witnesses. It is better to document the incident and report it to the USCG. Do it the legal way and we will eventually get rid of the bad captains. Toss an iron at a boat full of people and all kayakers are going to come out on the losing end of the battle. It kind of sucks, not getting the immediate gratification, but retaliation on the water isn't going to help. Repeated, documented reports to the CG will eventually have an impact.

[DBITE]

While there is no reason for these guys to get close, Remember guys, The speed thing is because these boats IDLE at 7knts or so and the move a lot of water, which means that even at idle speed they make substantial wake.

Its funny how the same style boats never seem to throw a wake when they pass me in the commercial basin of SD Bay, and they're definitely not doing 7 knots at idle. If for some reason the slowest this boat can do is 7 knots (8+ mph) then all we have to do is report him to the Coast Guard or Harbor Police every time he attempts to enter or exit the bay.

Mission Bay Vessel Speed

The speed limit on Mission Bay from sunset to sunrise is five (5) miles per hour. At other times, certain areas have a designated speed limit of five (5) miles per hour or less. These include:

Wherever buoys are posted with a five (5) mile per hour limit
Near bridges
Within 100 feet of shore
Within 100 feet of another vessel

Controlled Speed Areas
Speed limits are posted on buoys and signs.
The nighttime speed limit is 5 knots in all areas of the bay.
The speed limit is 5 mph within 100 feet of any other vessel, within 100 feet of the shoreline, within 200 feet of any dock or float, and under any bridges.
The speed limit is limited to steerage way only in all marina areas and basins.
The speed limit in Sail Bay is limited to 5 mph 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. from May 1 through Oct. 31.
Open Speed Areas Fiesta Bay, in the eastern half of Mission Bay, is the only area with no daytime speed limits, except the specific situations listed above.

[Siebler]

Trust me the NSF idles at 7knts and the dolphin is only a few knts behind. Not all the boats idle at high speed, The other boats i work on arnt near this fast. I work right accross the dock from the dolphin, the captians are not the best guys but there is definatly over-reaction from the kayak community on occasion.

Reporting a speed violation in the harbor to USCG just wastes your and their time, They know the RJ idles at 7knts and there is an understanding there. Its just like me telling CHP your going 70 on the 8 on your way home from fishing, its a small violation and noth worth their time.

[esdees]

Originally Posted by bassboyc

Trust me the NSF idles at 7knts and the dolphin is only a few knts behind. Not all the boats idle at high speed, The other boats i work on arnt near this fast. I work right accross the dock from the dolphin, the captians are not the best guys but there is definatly over-reaction from the kayak community on occasion.

I agree, but they're not always over reactions.

Originally Posted by bassboyc

Reporting a speed violation in the harbor to USCG just wastes your and their time, They know the RJ idles at 7knts and there is an understanding there. Its just like me telling CHP your going 70 on the 8 on your way home from fishing, its a small violation and noth worth their time.

Actually, if you do the math it's more like going 104 on the freeway home from fishing. Yes, I know that's not a fair comparison, but you started it.

"the RJ" - that's funny.

Sadly, this probably won't stop until something bad happens, like they flip a yaker who drowns or they hit a diver. Take pictures when you see a boat zinging other crafts, but don't chuck iron at them... that's not the smartest tactic. They are the bigger vessel and they have the right of way, but that doesn't mean they should get their jollies by waking yakers.

PS - this is a public forum. Everyone can see what you say...