Moken's New Lure Kayak - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Roundeye · 07-06-2013, 06:22 PM

Hey man, maybe your in the wrong sport

did you
ever think about that. its just a little water, deal with
it. Im sure new pro-staff offers will come your way soon.

bus kid · 07-06-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Roundeye

Hey man, maybe your in the wrong sport

did you
ever think about that. its just a little water, deal with
it. Im sure new pro-staff offers will come your way soon.

wow youve been here all of what 10 mins? Jimmy is stand up guy and called like it is. the issue is not the leak, but the way it was addressed.
Hay Jimmy, sorry to see it go down like that.

Fiskadoro · 07-07-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

wow youve been here all of what 10 mins?

No Dude Roundeye has been around for a long while. He signed up with those other dozen Trollers right after I came here back in early 2009. The problem with multiple personalities is it's hard to tell who's who. Jimmie, Jimmy, Jim. He knows he's here to mess with someone, I just think he's just honestly confused.

Jimmyz123 · 07-06-2013, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roundeye

Hey man, maybe your in the wrong sport

did you
ever think about that. its just a little water, deal with
it. Im sure new pro-staff offers will come your way soon.

Roundeye, to hide behind a screen name and take pop shots at someone is very honorable, good for you, you really hurt my feelings.

Say what you want that's your choice, but the fact is the Kayak had a leak, and yes, that can be fixed, but at no time however I did not see any information stating that the maker of the kayaks would stand behind their product and offer to repair or replace the kayak. For a company to terminate someone's Pro Staff contract, like they did to my friend, for speaking their truthful opinion about the product sounds like a wonderful pro staff to be a part of. I have a feeling that none of the other Pro Staffs are being run the way the Moken Staff is. If that means I never get to be on another Pro Staff, fine, I can handle that, but I will not but anyone's life at risk or Promote a product that could rip someone off or get them hurt.

Thank you Bus Kid.

MrPatrick · 07-06-2013, 10:23 PM

Sorry things went this way for you buddy.

dorado50 · 07-06-2013, 10:25 PM

Good on JimmyZ for stepping up!. He has the foresight to know that a company that won't stand behind its product won't last long in the marketplace.

I won't now or ever tolerate even one drop of water in my kayak. If there is a drop in there after my use I will find where its coming from and eliminate. Water does not belong in the bilge of a kayak.

Btw, I think you meant "pot shots" not poop shots!

alanw · 07-06-2013, 11:15 PM

Water leaking in the kayak isn't always a bad thing. When I first gooped my transducer inside my yak and took it out for a test run, it was not working properly and displaying all sorts of wierdness. Then then some water leaked in through the hatch and filled up the air bubbles in the goop and fixed the signal, a perfect wet mount transducer

Jimmyz123 · 07-07-2013, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

Good on JimmyZ for stepping up!. He has the foresight to know that a company that won't stand behind its product won't last long in the marketplace.

I won't now or ever tolerate even one drop of water in my kayak. If there is a drop in there after my use I will find where its coming from and eliminate. Water does not belong in the bilge of a kayak.

Btw, I think you meant "pot shots" not poop shots!

Did I say Poop shots? OOPS.

Right is right, and the way I see Feelfree going, it's not right.

lowprofile · 07-07-2013, 01:27 PM

you know, it still could be the "driest hatch out there". what front hatch out there keeps 100% of the water out? maybe Cobra with their flush hatches and 4-6 latches but any other tub and lid style hatch will leak.
hobies, malibus, ocean kayaks... they all do.

and fyi, some people ADD water to the hull.. gives a better FF reading

bus kid · 07-07-2013, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile

you know, it still could be the "driest hatch out there". what front hatch out there keeps 100% of the water out? maybe Cobra with their flush hatches and 4-6 latches but any other tub and lid style hatch will leak.
hobies, malibus, ocean kayaks... they all do.

and fyi, some people ADD water to the hull.. gives a better FF reading

Stay outta this or I'm telling fishstick!

lowprofile · 07-07-2013, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bus kid

Stay outta this or I'm telling fishstick!

dang it...

i need to go dry out the PA anyways.

makobob · 07-07-2013, 01:47 PM

Honesty, Integrity, and Loyalty.
Always and FOREVER!

Who would you want on your team?

Roundeye · 07-07-2013, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyz123

For a company to terminate someone's Pro Staff contract, like they did to my friend, .

The leak is a simple fix, sounds like somebody got a little butt hurt.

Jimmyz123 · 07-07-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Roundeye

The leak is a simple fix, sounds like somebody got a little butt hurt.

Roundeye, you have no clue what you are saying do you? I stood up for a teammate of mine that got dealt some dirt, and in the process I discovered a cover up the company was trying to pass over on the customers. So I opted out of my contract because I don't want to work for a company that's going to do that. Assume what you want, make what ever insults you want, but I know the truth and that's all that matters.

You, have a problem, all you do is pop on to posts, insult people, and then go away. You're making a really good name for yourself. I may not be liked well by all and that's fine, but I'm still not going to push a product on anyone that may not be safe.

papatone8 · 07-07-2013, 07:39 AM

I think it's only fair that I get an opportunity to chime in here and share the other side of the story. Jimmy, the hatch issue has been resolved in that the walls surrounding the hatches have been redone, and a new an better gasket is being used to ensure that it is indeed watertight. I'd actually posted this on the team page, but you'd booked out before reading. If ANYONE has an issue with their Moken kayak, all they have to do is call the customer service line at Feelfree Kayaks in North Carolina. All issues will be resolved or a new yak will be sent to replace the faulty one. This is a brand new line of kayaks, and Feelfree is working hard to provide the utmost in customer service to correct any issues that may arise. I think anyone would be impressed with the customer service that these guys provide. Feelfree has had a great year so far, and will continue to provide excellent customer service and strive to bring new and innovative kayaks into the kayak fishing market.

As far as the other "conspiracy theories" that have been thrown out there, they are exactly what they seem to be... hearsay, and nothing more. The other member was dismissed for a lack of professionalism and nothing more. I for one, would prefer to remain professional and adult in regarding these accusations.

Jimmyz123 · 07-07-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by papatone8

I think it's only fair that I get an opportunity to chime in here and share the other side of the story. Jimmy, the hatch issue has been resolved in that the walls surrounding the hatches have been redone, and a new an better gasket is being used to ensure that it is indeed watertight. I'd actually posted this on the team page, but you'd booked out before reading. If ANYONE has an issue with their Moken kayak, all they have to do is call the customer service line at Feelfree Kayaks in North Carolina. All issues will be resolved or a new yak will be sent to replace the faulty one. This is a brand new line of kayaks, and Feelfree is working hard to provide the utmost in customer service to correct any issues that may arise. I think anyone would be impressed with the customer service that these guys provide. Feelfree has had a great year so far, and will continue to provide excellent customer service and strive to bring new and innovative kayaks into the kayak fishing market.

As far as the other "conspiracy theories" that have been thrown out there, they are exactly what they seem to be... hearsay, and nothing more. The other member was dismissed for a lack of professionalism and nothing more. I for one, would prefer to remain professional and adult in regarding these accusations.

Tony, I'm not going to fight with you but I have copies of the PMs and there wasn't anything unprofessional in them. He was asked honestly in a Private Message how he would compare the Moken to the Wilderness Systems kayaks and he answered honestly, nothing different from what I've see others say on the team board. I have the copies of what was said so don't B.S. the people in here. As far as I'm concerned it's over with. If Moken stands behind their warranty on the Kayak great, but treating someone like Dennis was treated was not right. I'm sure if others on the team new they would agree. He was setup and then kicked off the team, again, I have the proof of what was said.

I hope that FeelFree and Moken do well, but right now word on the street out here is not too good, I've received a lot of PMs in the last two days telling me so, and that was another reason I bailed. Too much stress on a sport that I love, and I just don't need it anymore. Have a good day sir.

papatone8 · 07-07-2013, 08:10 AM

we're all entitled to our opinions Jimmy. Feelfree will indeed stand behind it's products and continue to do so. As I said in my e-mail to you, I wish you well in your future endeavors, but saying that it's all over, yet continuing on a bashing spree isn't truly saying it's over. As far as the other member goes, I too have all of that, and I suppose we'll continue to disagree. As far as the other team members, I don't hide anything from them. I welcome their discussions and disagreements, because that only makes us a stronger team.

Good luck to ya.

07-06-2013, 10:23 PM	#5
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07-06-2013, 11:15 PM	#7
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	Water leaking in the kayak isn't always a bad thing. When I first gooped my transducer inside my yak and took it out for a test run, it was not working properly and displaying all sorts of wierdness. Then then some water leaked in through the hatch and filled up the air bubbles in the goop and fixed the signal, a perfect wet mount transducer __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe

07-07-2013, 01:27 PM	#9
lowprofile #1 on fishstick's hitlist Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sea level Posts: 1,477	you know, it still could be the "driest hatch out there". what front hatch out there keeps 100% of the water out? maybe Cobra with their flush hatches and 4-6 latches but any other tub and lid style hatch will leak. hobies, malibus, ocean kayaks... they all do. and fyi, some people ADD water to the hull.. gives a better FF reading __________________ MLPA- My Largest Poaching Area

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07-06-2013, 06:22 PM	#1
Roundeye Junior Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 14	Hey man, maybe your in the wrong sport did you ever think about that. its just a little water, deal with it. Im sure new pro-staff offers will come your way soon.

07-06-2013, 10:25 PM	#6
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Good on JimmyZ for stepping up!. He has the foresight to know that a company that won't stand behind its product won't last long in the marketplace. I won't now or ever tolerate even one drop of water in my kayak. If there is a drop in there after my use I will find where its coming from and eliminate. Water does not belong in the bilge of a kayak. Btw, I think you meant "pot shots" not poop shots!

07-07-2013, 07:39 AM	#15
papatone8 Junior Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4	I think it's only fair that I get an opportunity to chime in here and share the other side of the story. Jimmy, the hatch issue has been resolved in that the walls surrounding the hatches have been redone, and a new an better gasket is being used to ensure that it is indeed watertight. I'd actually posted this on the team page, but you'd booked out before reading. If ANYONE has an issue with their Moken kayak, all they have to do is call the customer service line at Feelfree Kayaks in North Carolina. All issues will be resolved or a new yak will be sent to replace the faulty one. This is a brand new line of kayaks, and Feelfree is working hard to provide the utmost in customer service to correct any issues that may arise. I think anyone would be impressed with the customer service that these guys provide. Feelfree has had a great year so far, and will continue to provide excellent customer service and strive to bring new and innovative kayaks into the kayak fishing market. As far as the other "conspiracy theories" that have been thrown out there, they are exactly what they seem to be... hearsay, and nothing more. The other member was dismissed for a lack of professionalism and nothing more. I for one, would prefer to remain professional and adult in regarding these accusations.

07-07-2013, 08:10 AM	#17
papatone8 Junior Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4	we're all entitled to our opinions Jimmy. Feelfree will indeed stand behind it's products and continue to do so. As I said in my e-mail to you, I wish you well in your future endeavors, but saying that it's all over, yet continuing on a bashing spree isn't truly saying it's over. As far as the other member goes, I too have all of that, and I suppose we'll continue to disagree. As far as the other team members, I don't hide anything from them. I welcome their discussions and disagreements, because that only makes us a stronger team. Good luck to ya.