Size recommendations for Daiwa Sealine and Ugly Stik Tiger - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

taggermike · 05-01-2015, 08:26 AM

The combo you're looking at will get the job done well at a bargain. I'd look at the Sealine 30 or 40. 20 too small n 50 bigger than you need. Tigers are solid fish killing rods, tough and hold up well for yak fishing. I'm not sure of the specs but 7' rated for 30 or 40 would be the go to. As for iron, this out fit would yoyo ok but not be too good for surface iron. A "do all" rod doesn't really exist. Mike

PapaDave · 05-01-2015, 09:33 AM

I'd check out the Sealine 20LW series. I find this reel to be very strong and I hook it up on an Sabre. the reel was about $170 and the pole I got on sale at Big 5 for $40.

FISH11 · 05-01-2015, 10:34 AM

I have a Ugly stick Tiger 7' MH and in medium or mediun heavy is best and I have it matched to the Daiwa sealine X SHA in a 50. 30 or 40 will work. I also have a 20 on a tiger 7' light but that is too light unless it's for rock fish or medium size fish. Yellows are too much for it , but the MH is killer for it's pulling power. It lets me reel in much faster than my Daiwa rod and sealine set-up. The Ugly stick Tiger is a super rod, for the buget price nothing comes close. You can get much better rods but not without spending more than 3 times the money (or more). They have much better guides than my Shimano or Daiwa rods. I installed carbon drag washers on all the Daiwas and that is super.

5-20 · 05-01-2015, 11:43 AM

I have the 7' MH. No fish on that rod yet but yea, it seems to be the best tiger model for the lj area for those fish you want. Definitely a cool value at that price point. Guys in the gulf love that rod for its durability and catch a bunch of very nice sharks on them.

The only thing, the 2-3 times I used the tiger, the braid (65 lb pp) seemed to catch around the tip top more than it would with the other phenix psw rods I usually use. Not sure if that's something you guys have noticed with yours? Could always do a fast fix and swap it out for a fuji to see if that'd help, I suppose.

CardShark · 05-01-2015, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by taggermike

The combo you're looking at will get the job done well at a bargain. I'd look at the Sealine 30 or 40. 20 too small n 50 bigger than you need. Tigers are solid fish killing rods, tough and hold up well for yak fishing. I'm not sure of the specs but 7' rated for 30 or 40 would be the go to. As for iron, this out fit would yoyo ok but not be too good for surface iron. A "do all" rod doesn't really exist. Mike

Thanks Mike. I figured one rod wouldn't do a great job at all three.

Do you mind giving me a quick "what to look for" in the optimum rod for all 3 techniques? I'm sure the info would help others as well.

Iceman · 05-01-2015, 03:02 PM

I just picked up a 30 for flylining and 40 for dropper loop and yoyo fishing. Great reels for $100.

taggermike · 05-01-2015, 05:36 PM

There are too many options to give exact rod n reel recommendations but i can give some generalities that work for me. For yoyo a 6-7' heavy action, glass or graphite, rod and a strong reel with good drags n 4:1 gears is perfect. Yoyo is not a subtle style. Drop in grind with little or no casting.

Surface iron does involve long casts. Some guys like shorter rods but I learned on sports boats and I'm comfortable with 9'. 8-9' 40lb rated with any good casting reel. From a sealine 40 to a new Trinidad.

For a live bait out fit for yrllowtail the out fit youre looking to get will work fine. Any rod rated to fish 30 or 40 will work fine. And a reel with solid drags and a couple hundred yards of capacity is all you need. Newer and more pricey gear is nice and can be fished harder with smoother drags, greater cranking power, and easier cast ability, but for 50 years huge numbers of every fish in so cal have been caught on all glass saber rods and Penn jig masters, 500s, squiders, and 4/0s. Mike

05-01-2015, 09:33 AM	#2
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,475	I'd check out the Sealine 20LW series. I find this reel to be very strong and I hook it up on an Sabre. the reel was about $170 and the pole I got on sale at Big 5 for $40. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

05-01-2015, 10:34 AM	#3
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	I have a Ugly stick Tiger 7' MH and in medium or mediun heavy is best and I have it matched to the Daiwa sealine X SHA in a 50. 30 or 40 will work. I also have a 20 on a tiger 7' light but that is too light unless it's for rock fish or medium size fish. Yellows are too much for it , but the MH is killer for it's pulling power. It lets me reel in much faster than my Daiwa rod and sealine set-up. The Ugly stick Tiger is a super rod, for the buget price nothing comes close. You can get much better rods but not without spending more than 3 times the money (or more). They have much better guides than my Shimano or Daiwa rods. I installed carbon drag washers on all the Daiwas and that is super. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

05-01-2015, 03:02 PM	#6
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	I just picked up a 30 for flylining and 40 for dropper loop and yoyo fishing. Great reels for $100. __________________

05-01-2015, 08:26 AM	#1
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	The combo you're looking at will get the job done well at a bargain. I'd look at the Sealine 30 or 40. 20 too small n 50 bigger than you need. Tigers are solid fish killing rods, tough and hold up well for yak fishing. I'm not sure of the specs but 7' rated for 30 or 40 would be the go to. As for iron, this out fit would yoyo ok but not be too good for surface iron. A "do all" rod doesn't really exist. Mike

05-01-2015, 11:43 AM	#4
5-20 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 241	I have the 7' MH. No fish on that rod yet but yea, it seems to be the best tiger model for the lj area for those fish you want. Definitely a cool value at that price point. Guys in the gulf love that rod for its durability and catch a bunch of very nice sharks on them. The only thing, the 2-3 times I used the tiger, the braid (65 lb pp) seemed to catch around the tip top more than it would with the other phenix psw rods I usually use. Not sure if that's something you guys have noticed with yours? Could always do a fast fix and swap it out for a fuji to see if that'd help, I suppose.

05-01-2015, 05:36 PM	#7
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	There are too many options to give exact rod n reel recommendations but i can give some generalities that work for me. For yoyo a 6-7' heavy action, glass or graphite, rod and a strong reel with good drags n 4:1 gears is perfect. Yoyo is not a subtle style. Drop in grind with little or no casting. Surface iron does involve long casts. Some guys like shorter rods but I learned on sports boats and I'm comfortable with 9'. 8-9' 40lb rated with any good casting reel. From a sealine 40 to a new Trinidad. For a live bait out fit for yrllowtail the out fit youre looking to get will work fine. Any rod rated to fish 30 or 40 will work fine. And a reel with solid drags and a couple hundred yards of capacity is all you need. Newer and more pricey gear is nice and can be fished harder with smoother drags, greater cranking power, and easier cast ability, but for 50 years huge numbers of every fish in so cal have been caught on all glass saber rods and Penn jig masters, 500s, squiders, and 4/0s. Mike