Not giving the Yellowtail a rest - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Jared · 08-22-2008, 07:18 PM

All the fish were on the yo yo. Took me back to my trip to cedros. Haha. We had four others on the jig that we had on for a while and lost. It was a fun night. For sure some soar muscle fun. It was way more fun watching bailey on his fish than it was getting my own. To see someone get their first good yellow is priceless.

805gregg · 08-23-2008, 06:22 AM

After 2 fish, how about catch and release? There is not an unlimited supply and if you release, you or someone else can catch it again. Plus it might be able to reproduce. 80-120# of fish is alot for 2 people.

tptrench · 08-23-2008, 07:02 AM

Go back to Ojai!!!!!! and stay there!!!!!!

Dan · 08-23-2008, 10:10 AM

no need to flame. I'm certain all that fish is being well cared for and eaten quickly. Most of us do our part and release a fish and understand the LJ fishery. I personally would rather eat and freeze fish I caught rather than eating restaurant fish that was most certainly caught by seiners and gill nets or asian farms.

Willy · 08-23-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

tree hugger

Go back to Ojai!!!!!! and stay there!!!!!!

Seroiusly?
Come on now.

45king · 08-23-2008, 11:54 AM

Jared barely put a dent on his limits in us waters. why are your panties getting all bunched up?

thien · 08-23-2008, 01:22 PM

That's what vacuum packers and freezers were meant for.

THE DARKHORSE · 08-23-2008, 02:04 PM

Instead of calling someone a "tree hugger" or pulling the local card, I would like to offer a different perspective. First off, the regulations are set, and no laws were broke. Not to mention between the two anglers they are missing six more Yellowtail to even reach their limit, so why share your negative outlook? (another awesome P.M. opportunity).

I look at La Jolla as "my little stock-pond", just like my family ranch ponds in east and west Texas, that are stuffed with Florida hybrid Largemouth Bass, Channel Catfish, Blue catfish, and Bluegill Perch (the food for the big guys). In our ponds we had quite a few bass over 12 lbs (largest 14 lbs) and catfish over 30 lbs. Occasionaly we would keep the smaller catfish for an afternoon fish fry, but I kinda knew all the giant bass by name. They had their favorite spots for different times of the day (just like Yellowtail), and destroyed multiple different topwater plugs like it was their job (pretty cool). I took great care of these fish (pets), and loved to catch smaller snakes and crickets, then bring a friend over to watch as I let them go by the stump section in the afternoon. We would watch with anticipation, and try to predict just how far that wiggly creature would make it, them BOOM (freaking awesome). As a kid I had snakes as pets also (Pythons and King Snakes), so please no negative comments from snake lovers, and trust me we had plenty of snakes on the property (just like Yellowtail in La Jolla). Today I C and R more than 90% of my catch, but enjoy the harvest as well. I take great pride in seeing a "healthy" fish swim off, and selfishly feel it boosts my fishing karma. I protect the local homeguard Yellowtail, just like my pets in the stock pond, thus the comparison. In some years it's challenging to tell the locals from the transient pelagics. In others such as this year it's real easy, as the squid crop was strong all year, and even the younger homeguards are stupid-fat and healthy. I know some anglers that think only the giant Yellowtail are locals, but we have a very strong crop of Yellowtail that have no plans on leaving, all sizes. A big part of my decision with each Yellowtail is trying to figure out whether this fish is simply passing through, or an established trophy to be (I want my 50 lb+). I know, this may sound trivial to someone who doesn't have an opportunity to fish this great place as often as I do, so take "my opinion" with a grain of salt. "I think" harvesting the transients helps the local crop, by lowering the strain on the deminishing food supply of summer months. I feel it helps insure the strength of "my stock fish" to provide plenty of action during the supposedly slower winter months. I also feel it's a good idea to keep "your harvest practices" to yourself, kinda like political debates, and forcing religion on someone (not well received). The best way to get your point across is to lead by example, and maybe you will end up doing a greater deed, than just giving someone else an opportunity to pull on that fish too.

NO

HERE, JUST THINKING OUTLOUD.

radastaff · 08-23-2008, 04:06 PM

nice fish

wish it was me

p

Jared · 08-23-2008, 05:06 PM

I understand your point and I respect what you say but to be honest, Yellow tail is like gold around my house with four roomates and no money. 2 of the four fish we ate that night and the other two are feeding our family BBQ on Sunday. Haha. Sorry if I offended anyone keeping three fish but to be honest I was amped to see if three was possible on a kayak.

roosta · 08-23-2008, 06:48 PM

You guys are my heroes of the month!

See you at work...

Jared · 08-24-2008, 08:57 PM

After a slow morning with some rough water and ugly cloud cover, I almost called it a day...

The result

Thanks for the photos Larry.

deeberdave · 08-25-2008, 07:55 AM

Well said Darkhouse,
With our resource being threatened from all sides we have lots more
important things to do than call each other names!!!
Great post

:notwort hy:
THANKS

Rusty · 08-23-2008, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 805gregg

After 2 fish, how about catch and release? There is not an unlimited supply and if you release, you or someone else can catch it again. Plus it might be able to reproduce. 80-120# of fish is alot for 2 people.

805Gregg - Some seiners can bag as much as 20,000 tons per year. That's 40,000,000 (40 Million) Pounds per year, not including by catch. By slaughtering some yellows here and there, and living off that, we are not supporting the 40 Million Pound / year seiners and all their trashed by catch... I don't know if that makes sense, but it seems logical to me.

Read up on it...
http://weblog.greenpeace.org/pacific...es/001648.html

08-22-2008, 07:18 PM	#1
Jared Junior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 9	Yo Yo Yo Dog All the fish were on the yo yo. Took me back to my trip to cedros. Haha. We had four others on the jig that we had on for a while and lost. It was a fun night. For sure some soar muscle fun. It was way more fun watching bailey on his fish than it was getting my own. To see someone get their first good yellow is priceless.

08-23-2008, 02:04 PM	#8
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	To harvest or not, a personal decision....... Instead of calling someone a "tree hugger" or pulling the local card, I would like to offer a different perspective. First off, the regulations are set, and no laws were broke. Not to mention between the two anglers they are missing six more Yellowtail to even reach their limit, so why share your negative outlook? (another awesome P.M. opportunity). I look at La Jolla as "my little stock-pond", just like my family ranch ponds in east and west Texas, that are stuffed with Florida hybrid Largemouth Bass, Channel Catfish, Blue catfish, and Bluegill Perch (the food for the big guys). In our ponds we had quite a few bass over 12 lbs (largest 14 lbs) and catfish over 30 lbs. Occasionaly we would keep the smaller catfish for an afternoon fish fry, but I kinda knew all the giant bass by name. They had their favorite spots for different times of the day (just like Yellowtail), and destroyed multiple different topwater plugs like it was their job (pretty cool). I took great care of these fish (pets), and loved to catch smaller snakes and crickets, then bring a friend over to watch as I let them go by the stump section in the afternoon. We would watch with anticipation, and try to predict just how far that wiggly creature would make it, them BOOM (freaking awesome). As a kid I had snakes as pets also (Pythons and King Snakes), so please no negative comments from snake lovers, and trust me we had plenty of snakes on the property (just like Yellowtail in La Jolla). Today I C and R more than 90% of my catch, but enjoy the harvest as well. I take great pride in seeing a "healthy" fish swim off, and selfishly feel it boosts my fishing karma. I protect the local homeguard Yellowtail, just like my pets in the stock pond, thus the comparison. In some years it's challenging to tell the locals from the transient pelagics. In others such as this year it's real easy, as the squid crop was strong all year, and even the younger homeguards are stupid-fat and healthy. I know some anglers that think only the giant Yellowtail are locals, but we have a very strong crop of Yellowtail that have no plans on leaving, all sizes. A big part of my decision with each Yellowtail is trying to figure out whether this fish is simply passing through, or an established trophy to be (I want my 50 lb+). I know, this may sound trivial to someone who doesn't have an opportunity to fish this great place as often as I do, so take "my opinion" with a grain of salt. "I think" harvesting the transients helps the local crop, by lowering the strain on the deminishing food supply of summer months. I feel it helps insure the strength of "my stock fish" to provide plenty of action during the supposedly slower winter months. I also feel it's a good idea to keep "your harvest practices" to yourself, kinda like political debates, and forcing religion on someone (not well received). The best way to get your point across is to lead by example, and maybe you will end up doing a greater deed, than just giving someone else an opportunity to pull on that fish too. NO HERE, JUST THINKING OUTLOUD. __________________

08-23-2008, 05:06 PM	#10
Jared Junior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 9	Fishing to be a Pig and fishing to feed the poor. I understand your point and I respect what you say but to be honest, Yellow tail is like gold around my house with four roomates and no money. 2 of the four fish we ate that night and the other two are feeding our family BBQ on Sunday. Haha. Sorry if I offended anyone keeping three fish but to be honest I was amped to see if three was possible on a kayak.

08-24-2008, 08:57 PM	#12
Jared Junior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 9	Doubled Up After a slow morning with some rough water and ugly cloud cover, I almost called it a day... The result Thanks for the photos Larry.

08-25-2008, 07:55 AM	#13
deeberdave Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: CARLSBAD Posts: 34	Well said Darkhouse, With our resource being threatened from all sides we have lots more important things to do than call each other names!!! Great post:notwort hy: THANKS

08-23-2008, 06:22 AM	#2
805gregg Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ojai, Ca Posts: 43	After 2 fish, how about catch and release? There is not an unlimited supply and if you release, you or someone else can catch it again. Plus it might be able to reproduce. 80-120# of fish is alot for 2 people.

08-23-2008, 07:02 AM	#3
tptrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pt loma Posts: 101	tree hugger Go back to Ojai!!!!!! and stay there!!!!!!

08-23-2008, 10:10 AM	#4
Dan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,053	no need to flame. I'm certain all that fish is being well cared for and eaten quickly. Most of us do our part and release a fish and understand the LJ fishery. I personally would rather eat and freeze fish I caught rather than eating restaurant fish that was most certainly caught by seiners and gill nets or asian farms.

08-23-2008, 11:54 AM	#6
45king Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 63	Jared barely put a dent on his limits in us waters. why are your panties getting all bunched up?

08-23-2008, 01:22 PM	#7
thien Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 53	That's what vacuum packers and freezers were meant for.

08-23-2008, 04:06 PM	#9
radastaff Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 314	nice fish wish it was me p

08-23-2008, 06:48 PM	#11
roosta Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 68	You guys are my heroes of the month! See you at work...