Ghost Fever... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

MalibuJohnny · 03-25-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicken Dinner

I am always up for a good riddle. Josh has not only landed a toad but two. One legal take and one illegally as defined F&G. F&G calls it illegal take but in layman's terms we call it poaching. Josh you may have 15 buddies that support you magnificent release but lets think about. Often times seabass are not that hearty. Lets not give more reasons to these yahoo environmentalists to shut down our fishery. You post on a public forum your kayak in prime seabass area with a toad on the back still fishing the same secret method that you used to kill the first one. Your intend is what matters. Where you fishing for yellowtail or halibut of trying to get some footage of you in action?

Oh wait a minute I heard you were catching bait... That makes sense. Anyway you are the only one that knows if you were poaching or not. I would just recommend not posting it to the world in the height of people trying to take away all of our fishing privileges. Being a steward of the ocean is what it is all about. If you truly honor the fish you take you should have the integrity to do things by the book.

Back to the riddle.....

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Guesses on Josh's crazy secret methods????

I think he uses a white towel attached to a dropper loop on 65lb red cajun spectra with a green dacron topshot tipped with a bushel of garlic.

Other thoughts?

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Can you or someone explain these photos? They do appear to be “fixed” or “tampered” with. Common now didn’t we learn from the last guy?
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In our lives we try to fine a group or herd to belong to. We as humans need to feel that sense of relationship. Like the “mid-life” biker who during the week is an accountant and on the weekend a “bad ass biker” I guess we can get caught up in our “fame” of which we create!

I don’t doubt the talent of the angler…in fact I think its way to much self created “fame”
At the end of the day we all hope to catch the big one…it’s OK if you don’t too.

Fishing is fun and I do it to relax with my kids…go back to keeping it simple; don’t congests it with un-truth and Photoshop!

dorado50 · 03-25-2009, 08:53 AM

Not saying anything about anyone, but I do agree with Andy in that boating a fish over the bag limit is not good. That picture is great in that to release an over the limit fish bring it boatside,remove hook if visible or in most cases cut leader as close to mouth as possible. Once you handle an over the limit fish you are technically in violation(at least my common sense tells me that). By the way I have not seen this video,only commenting on Andy's pic. Fish on........

blackcloud9 · 03-25-2009, 08:58 AM

If you know Josh, and I have for years - way before he was DARKHORSE -
then you know that every detail always matters to him. He has a gift for
analyzing and understanding fish.

Whether it is in how a bait is presented, or, how an annoying distraction
in a great picture NEEDS to be fixed.

The irony is, most anglers that he talks to will scoff at the level of detail
he INSISTS ON when fishing, or when fixing his pictures.

It's really difficult to argue with his results, and he could just let results do
the talking.

I was lucky enough to be in the right place to watch the excitement, partly
because I'm content to smile and enjoy somebody else's magic show with grace.

And before you jump on the jealousy bandwagon about not being there guys,
realize that there were three other very experienced kayak fishermen within
talking distance, using the same exact techniques and nobody else got a strike
in many hours. So realistically, hard to describe as an "epic bite" in my opinion.

dorado50 · 03-25-2009, 09:25 AM

Again Larry, having an over the limit fish in your possesion is a violation for everyone.By the way I do know Josh(surprised?).

j mo · 03-25-2009, 09:29 AM

Screw the regs...Unveil the secret? I want to catch one of those WSBS!

MalibuJohnny · 03-25-2009, 09:52 AM

Common now... epic is John Wayne or Bruce Lee! Good angler! not epic!

I call 'em as I see 'em!

Why doctor the photos? besides breaking the rules... to prove one greatness?

Iam going fishing!

blackcloud9 · 03-25-2009, 10:18 AM

2001. (a) It is unlawful to take mammals, birds, fish, reptiles,>>and amphibians outside of established seasons or to exceed any bag>>limit or possession limit established in this code or by regulations>>adopted by the commission. Violation of any established season, bag>>limit, or possession limit may be charged as a violation of this>>section or of the specific code section or regulation that>>establishes the season or limit.>>

86. "Take" means hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill, or attempt>>to hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill.

Correct Dave. I am in "violation" if I "hunt" or "catch" a BSB or short calico. Technically, 56 mph is a "violation" in a 55 zone too. I'm just sayin ' y'all : )

Love you guys! : ) See you at the show!

j mo · 03-25-2009, 10:35 AM

Hey Blackcloud,

In an earlier post you said "(Got some reds and sculpin fishing deep plastics 120 to 160'. Didn't catch any live bait, didn't bring wsb bait. BTW Decent calicos and halibut off the beach lately, see photo album)"

Ive been in the hunt for some time now for a WSB with no luck, can you share what bait you use? (I assume Squid???) Feel free to PM

Thanks,

screaming reel · 03-25-2009, 10:33 AM

You Rock Chicken ! Speak your mind! Good point! Everyone is entitled to their opinion even if it is their first post. Come on people he brought up a good point.

Josh why did you continue to fish? You profess your ethics often. I think for the integrity of the board and the sport and all the people who congratulate you often you should explain why you kept fishing after you caught your limit.

I released a big one without taking it out of the water and watched it swim away, very cool indeed. If the ego comes before the welfare of the fish then it is wrong. If it is illegal to catch a fish after landing one, it is wrong. You are becoming a guide, right. Watch how you "teach" others.

Once again, if a fish caught us and held us underwater for a little bit when were pregnant, with our pregnant belly being pushed what would that do for our survival rate. Doubtful if we would make it.

Play by the rules boys. Slam me if you wish - I have a tough skin and will remain hidden behind the cloak of the computer.

03-25-2009, 08:58 AM	#3
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	If you know Josh, and I have for years - way before he was DARKHORSE - then you know that every detail always matters to him. He has a gift for analyzing and understanding fish. Whether it is in how a bait is presented, or, how an annoying distraction in a great picture NEEDS to be fixed. The irony is, most anglers that he talks to will scoff at the level of detail he INSISTS ON when fishing, or when fixing his pictures. It's really difficult to argue with his results, and he could just let results do the talking. I was lucky enough to be in the right place to watch the excitement, partly because I'm content to smile and enjoy somebody else's magic show with grace. And before you jump on the jealousy bandwagon about not being there guys, realize that there were three other very experienced kayak fishermen within talking distance, using the same exact techniques and nobody else got a strike in many hours. So realistically, hard to describe as an "epic bite" in my opinion. Last edited by blackcloud9; 03-25-2009 at 11:59 AM.

03-25-2009, 09:52 AM	#6
MalibuJohnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lahina (I Wish) Posts: 272	Epic? Bandwagon? Common now... epic is John Wayne or Bruce Lee! Good angler! not epic! I call 'em as I see 'em! Why doctor the photos? besides breaking the rules... to prove one greatness? Iam going fishing! __________________ Malibu Johnny must catch fish

03-25-2009, 10:18 AM	#7
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	2001. (a) It is unlawful to take mammals, birds, fish, reptiles,>>and amphibians outside of established seasons or to exceed any bag>>limit or possession limit established in this code or by regulations>>adopted by the commission. Violation of any established season, bag>>limit, or possession limit may be charged as a violation of this>>section or of the specific code section or regulation that>>establishes the season or limit.>> 86. "Take" means hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill, or attempt>>to hunt, pursue, catch, capture, or kill. Correct Dave. I am in "violation" if I "hunt" or "catch" a BSB or short calico. Technically, 56 mph is a "violation" in a 55 zone too. I'm just sayin ' y'all : ) Love you guys! : ) See you at the show! __________________ Larry. Hobie Revolution 13. 25 years of kayak fishing La Jolla. https://larryl.com/photos

03-25-2009, 08:53 AM	#2
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Not saying anything about anyone, but I do agree with Andy in that boating a fish over the bag limit is not good. That picture is great in that to release an over the limit fish bring it boatside,remove hook if visible or in most cases cut leader as close to mouth as possible. Once you handle an over the limit fish you are technically in violation(at least my common sense tells me that). By the way I have not seen this video,only commenting on Andy's pic. Fish on........

03-25-2009, 09:25 AM	#4
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Again Larry, having an over the limit fish in your possesion is a violation for everyone.By the way I do know Josh(surprised?).

03-25-2009, 09:29 AM	#5
j mo Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Encinitas Posts: 600	Screw the regs...Unveil the secret? I want to catch one of those WSBS!

03-25-2009, 10:35 AM	#8
j mo Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Encinitas Posts: 600	Hey Blackcloud, In an earlier post you said "(Got some reds and sculpin fishing deep plastics 120 to 160'. Didn't catch any live bait, didn't bring wsb bait. BTW Decent calicos and halibut off the beach lately, see photo album)" Ive been in the hunt for some time now for a WSB with no luck, can you share what bait you use? (I assume Squid???) Feel free to PM Thanks,

03-25-2009, 10:33 AM	#9
screaming reel Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	You Rock Chicken ! Speak your mind! Good point! Everyone is entitled to their opinion even if it is their first post. Come on people he brought up a good point. Josh why did you continue to fish? You profess your ethics often. I think for the integrity of the board and the sport and all the people who congratulate you often you should explain why you kept fishing after you caught your limit. I released a big one without taking it out of the water and watched it swim away, very cool indeed. If the ego comes before the welfare of the fish then it is wrong. If it is illegal to catch a fish after landing one, it is wrong. You are becoming a guide, right. Watch how you "teach" others. Once again, if a fish caught us and held us underwater for a little bit when were pregnant, with our pregnant belly being pushed what would that do for our survival rate. Doubtful if we would make it. Play by the rules boys. Slam me if you wish - I have a tough skin and will remain hidden behind the cloak of the computer.