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Old 07-21-2009, 06:37 AM   #1
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Probably gonna start a small war here...but here goes. yeah they smell bad, and certainly they're no fun when they steal my macs. never had one steal my YT though, but I imagine that would send me over the top, especially given the slump I've been in this year. Believe me, I've thought about bringing a CO2 pistol with me on more than one occasion ....never did though. To me it's all part of the game. There's few better feelings than the disapointed look on a seals face when he ealizes he just swam all the way over to you only to find you reeled your bait in and are heading someplace else. Don't you guys think that, MLPA tree-hugging aside, the human species pretty much owns the state's (hell make it the country's) coastal seas, and the beaches and waterways that border it? I mean if you look north from IB, what areas aren't humans in complete control over as far as Santa Barbara - not counting Camp Pendelton? Can't we give these creatures a break? I really don't care if they stay or they go, but I don't care if they stay either. Are the seals really that bad? Do we really need that cove so bad?

1. You're confusing seals with sea lions.

2. Those same seals used to hang out on the rocks next to the childrens pool. They were happy and content.

3. The over protection of seals(and other marine mammals) has caused an increase in GWS activity in our area. In years past San Diego was merely a breeding/birthing grounds for GWS. In recent years, they have shifted and began to hunt and eat in our waters. Check out the Pacific Coast reports on www.sharkresearchcommittee.com

4. You shouldn't be content to watch the government break the law and steal land that was set aside for a specific purpose.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:45 AM   #2
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I would love to have more of these around...

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Old 07-21-2009, 06:54 AM   #3
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They are always, always, always there!!! I get nervous when I see seals split fo' sho'! It will take some poor youngster getting mauled while swimming in the cove and then all the huggers and kehoe's will change their tunes and go "why didn't we do something earlier???" A little like a movie I once saw....I think the movie was called "Jaws"
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:51 PM   #4
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I am not against providing a sanctuary to an endangered species or even one that is threatened. But, that is not the case here. There are miles and miles of shoreline that humans do not control and that seals can and do inhabit. Most of the rocky shoreline like Sunset Cliffs and much of the La Jolla area. Many of the breakwalls, and for that matter much of the harbor areas like Mission Bay and San Diego Bay. Sure boats are able to fish there, but few pedestrians ever step foot on these areas.
Also, by increasing the seal population there is a direct impact on the fish population in the area. Seals and Sea Lions eat a large proportion of their body weight in fish on a daily basis.
The only reason that the city is all in favor of making it a seal sanctuary is that they don't want to pay to clean it up. They even made the situation worse by posting the contaminated signs which kept people away from the water and encouraged more seals to polute it. If the water is unhealty for people it is unhealthy for all the other life there.
If a whale swims into San Francisco Bay, should we close the bay and make it a Whale sanctuary? No, we encourage it to go back to its own environment.

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Old 07-23-2009, 10:04 PM   #5
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I don't like the seals.

Humans before seals.

It's the food chain, we win.

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Old 07-24-2009, 09:49 PM   #6
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I had not seen that shark sign before. I am curious, did the shark union and the folks responsible for posting that sign get together and decide that after a month or so had passed following the shark attack, everything would be back to normal? I wonder what time on that specific day the threat of shark attacks officially ended.

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Old 07-26-2009, 04:49 PM   #7
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I had not seen that shark sign before. I am curious, did the shark union and the folks responsible for posting that sign get together and decide that after a month or so had passed following the shark attack, everything would be back to normal? I wonder what time on that specific day the threat of shark attacks officially ended.

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I think that the theory was that the white shark generally does not hang out in these areas and given a 3 day observation time the waters were probably more safe as most whites would move on by then.
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:49 AM   #8
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I'm curious about the high contaminent levels of the area. If the seals remain
I don't think the contaminent levels are going to go down by themselves.
Won't this spread to the swimming area beside the launch zone. What effect
will the high bacteria counts have on the kelp and other natural flora in the area.
By allowing the seals to stay it would seem that they could be risking
a higher ecological problem down the road.
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