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Old 08-31-2009, 06:23 PM   #1
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I put out a little clear lipped Rapala one of my favorite kayak trolling lures tight in below a couple of daisey chains.

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Hey Jim,

Please translate the above. What are " a couple of daisey chains"

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Old 08-31-2009, 06:30 PM   #2
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Yea, funny how that works! Catching bass and such in the bay is also an excellent (practice) or technique that helps in catching palagics.
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Old 08-31-2009, 07:18 PM   #3
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Hey Jim, Please translate the above. What are " a couple of daisey chains"

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Daisy chains are where you take a number of lures and rig them in a row to mimic schools of fish or bait splashing on the surface.

In this case we had a purple hootchie Daisy Chain like this one..


On the left side forty feet back, and Zuccini Zukers daisy chain made of two of these lures




Om the right side forty feet back.

What I did was put the hootchies and zukers out side by side, and then I ran a shallow running cd14 Rapala



...right underneath them.

The idea being that they would be attracted by the hoochies and zukers and all the commotion they would make but then nail the Rapala that in theory looks like part of the bait school that just got away from the others and therefore was easier prey.

The other way I used the x-rap was a similar idea. In that case I put the Rapala way behind the others maybe 60 ft behind the nearest bait. In that case the lure looked like a straggler that was trying to keep up but not quite cutting it.

Here' the deal... Offshore the water is incredibly clear. when the tuna are feeding they are often on top but when they are not chasing bait they are often deep and on the move.

When they see a boat it looks like a huge shadow that a school of bait would make, the lures behind it look like larger baitfish chasing that shadow or feeding on whatever it's made of. They come up for the whole school or presentation as a whole then isolate of one or to baits to attack if they bite at all.

You want think of the lures in your trolling pattern then as part of a whole presentation. Hootchies or daisy chains side by side make more commotion so they work well in tandem. Lots of guys use them that way. My thing is I just took it one step further and added one of my favorite kayak lures, right under the chains to make it look like one bait that got to low away from the school and was therefore and easy meal.


What can I say... It worked. All the fish we got except the last two were do to fish coming up and hitting the rapalas first.

Jim

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Old 08-31-2009, 07:42 PM   #4
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You forgot the most important trick of them all, the sabiki. Its very easy to make candy off the kelps. The big scores are made off bait fish, once you stop the boat. Good job!
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:22 PM   #5
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You forgot the most important trick of them all, the sabiki. Its very easy to make candy off the kelps. The big scores are made off bait fish, once you stop the boat. Good job!
Your right!!!

Norm said to only bring five rods, with the trolling sticks and bait sticks, I decided to leave my sabiki rod at home. I meant to pack one in that package just in case, but I forgot about it.

With all that bait out on the paddies the sabiki would of been the ticket no doubt.

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Old 09-01-2009, 04:08 AM   #6
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How well would a daisy chain work trolled at yak speed?
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:25 AM   #7
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Crazy Fun!!!
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:26 AM   #8
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How well would a daisy chain work trolled at yak speed?
I have done it and caught bonito and too close to the kelp for calicos
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I have done it and caught bonito and too close to the kelp for calicos
Similar experience for me... they work but mainly for Bones and macks. If we constantly had tuna inshore where we could fish for them they might be red hot way to rig but personally I'd rather troll a rapala inshore due to the white seabass and yellowtail factor.

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