Watch out for the DFG guy. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Hunters Pa · 06-05-2010, 06:54 AM

Pretty sure the net is a requirement, which is why I bought the folding Promar. Makes you compliant. I'll look for the reg later today if the kids let me

bubblehide · 06-05-2010, 06:14 PM

I also like to see the DFG out there and feel like my license money is being utilized appropriately when there out there; only problem is that I hardly ever bump into them. But considering their proportion to the population hardly seeing them is understandable, there low numbers are not.

Years ago I had a few bad run-ins with a particular DFG officer; I was never in violation, so I was assertive but cooperative with him and everything always ended fine. But I would rather have them treat me (as they usually do) and anyone with dignity and respect until the situation calls for something different.

driftwood · 06-05-2010, 07:10 PM

I did have the privilege to speak with some of the the DFG guy's at a couple of the MLPA meetings and they told me they were on our side 100%.

But, does anyone know if the DFG officers have to meet a daily quota like the CHP officers?

The last two times i got checked out by the DFG, they seemed to be very disappointed that they had nothing on me. Why is that?

Has anyone else experienced this too? Or is it just me?

roadx · 06-05-2010, 08:45 PM

2010-2011 regs for nets

28.55 or 28.27, respectively.
(d) No gaff hook shall be used to take or assist in landing any finfish shorter than the minimum size limit. For the purpose of this section a gaff hook is any hook with or without a handle used to assist in landing fish or to take fish in such a manner that the fish does not take the hook voluntarily in its mouth. No person shall take finfish from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters without having a landing net in possession or available for immediate use to assist in landing undersize fish of species having minimum size limits; the opening of any such landing net shall be not less than eighteen inches in diameter.

dsafety · 06-06-2010, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by roadx

2010-2011 regs for nets

28.55 or 28.27, respectively.
(d) No gaff hook shall be used to take or assist in landing any finfish shorter than the minimum size limit. For the purpose of this section a gaff hook is any hook with or without a handle used to assist in landing fish or to take fish in such a manner that the fish does not take the hook voluntarily in its mouth. No person shall take finfish from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters without having a landing net in possession or available for immediate use to assist in landing undersize fish of species having minimum size limits; the opening of any such landing net shall be not less than eighteen inches in diameter.

Thanks for finding the reg. So I guess I will be packing the net from now on. I have one, it has just never touched a fish. I release most of the fish I catch while they are still in the water and have never found the need for using a net. I bet I am not alone.

Bob

Lets_Fish · 06-06-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by driftwood

I did have the privilege to speak with some of the the DFG guy's at a couple of the MLPA meetings and they told me they were on our side 100%.

But, does anyone know if the DFG officers have to meet a daily quota like the CHP officers?

The last two times i got checked out by the DFG, they seemed to be very disappointed that they had nothing on me. Why is that?

Has anyone else experienced this too? Or is it just me?

Back in January while fishing SD Bay, when I landed I was checked by 2 DFG agents next to the boat ramp at Shelter Island. They then checked every kayak and the one paddleboarder but not one PB! Now what's up with that? They did not even go over to the pier and check those people fishing. I'm guessing they were looking for all those seahorses that we were harvesting!

Hypoxic1 · 06-06-2010, 07:10 AM

3 weeks ago I was off the point and saw the big aluminium DFG mothership hovering off Scripps pier. They hit every boat on the water. Me first

. I had inadvertantly left my wallet with my license in the truck which is rare for me but they gave me a pass while at the same time saying "never again". They did hit every boat out there though and continued down the coast. They also indicated that this is going to be a regular thing all year long. I will never roll without my license again. Overall they seemed like pretty nice guys just doing their jobs.
I think attitude plays a lot in interaction just like everywhere else.

Aaron · 06-06-2010, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by driftwood

But, does anyone know if the DFG officers have to meet a daily quota like the CHP officers?

The warden that I went on a ride along with definitely had a quota. But he made it sound like it was so low that he could barely work and still meet it, so it wasn't a driving factor in how operations were being conducted. I believe his quota was set up so that he had to write a set amount of "no fishing license" tickets but that everything else was a bit open ended.

1Flatfish · 06-06-2010, 09:08 AM

Something else to think about: How many times do you just tell the DFG that you caught nothing to avoid any hassle? I am sadly guilty guilty of it. Then they think nobody is catching anything. Then others say there are no fish out there to catch, because nothing is being reported. Then they whip a little MLPA on us because the fish counts are so low. Is there anything to this? I don't know. But I am honest about what I catch now. Keep or release. Better information is better for all.

Drew · 06-07-2010, 11:36 AM

I was checked yesterday after scuba diving in the LJ Cove. He checked my weight pockets, probably looking for shells? Abalone? I did see 3 abs - all more than 12" across...mmmmmmm.

I'm always open and helpful with these checks - it's like others have said. I follow the rules and want them to find the bad guys. After the check he was very friendly, shared some chatter about the red tide and other dive locations he's seen that were cleaner than the shores.

By the by - the cove dive was good - open vis and no red tide around the corner near boomers. Hospitals was clear on Thursday but covered when we checked it Saturday. Anyone seen Cardiff? Is it clear?

Gino · 06-07-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1Flatfish

Something else to think about: How many times do you just tell the DFG that you caught nothing to avoid any hassle? I am sadly guilty guilty of it. Then they think nobody is catching anything. Then others say there are no fish out there to catch, because nothing is being reported. Then they whip a little MLPA on us because the fish counts are so low. Is there anything to this? I don't know. But I am honest about what I catch now. Keep or release. Better information is better for all.

Or you tell them what you caught and where you caught it. Then they use that Data to determine were the majority of fish are being harvested. target that area for a closure. No telling how they use that Data.

The guys that do the fish surveys arent DFG. I think they are swore in and could write you a violation. But I was told they are college students doing some sorta DFG survey for them. Hired part time or soemthing.

bellcon · 06-07-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gino

The guys that do the fish surveys arent DFG. I think they are swore in and could write you a violation. But I was told they are college students doing some sorta DFG survey for them. Hired part time or soemthing.

Gino
the DFG surveyors I have talked to in the past, have told me that they do NOT enforce any of the DFG regs.
One of them even told me that when doing a survey he came across 2 short halibut.
When he called in a warden and the warden reprimanded him.
The wardens point was that the surveyors are there strictly to survey.
And if they were to start trying to enforce the DFG regs. that the public would no longer volunteer to participate in the surveys.

Yep it is voluntary to participate in those surveys.
That's why they say... "can I ask you a few questions?"
I have only said no one time, and apologized because I was running late and didn't have time.

I figure be nice and helpful if you can... These guys and gals are most likely the next batch of DFG wardens, and someday may have a badge.

As far as the DFG goes, I respect them and comply when asked, just as I would with any peace officer.

Last thing we need is a few pin heads giving Kayakers a bad name.
I like it when they say, "I have never had a problem with the kayak fishing community"

06-05-2010, 07:10 PM	#3
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	I did have the privilege to speak with some of the the DFG guy's at a couple of the MLPA meetings and they told me they were on our side 100%. But, does anyone know if the DFG officers have to meet a daily quota like the CHP officers? The last two times i got checked out by the DFG, they seemed to be very disappointed that they had nothing on me. Why is that? Has anyone else experienced this too? Or is it just me? Last edited by driftwood; 06-05-2010 at 07:22 PM.

06-06-2010, 07:10 AM	#7
Hypoxic1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 215	Cal DFG Actually pretty cool 3 weeks ago I was off the point and saw the big aluminium DFG mothership hovering off Scripps pier. They hit every boat on the water. Me first. I had inadvertantly left my wallet with my license in the truck which is rare for me but they gave me a pass while at the same time saying "never again". They did hit every boat out there though and continued down the coast. They also indicated that this is going to be a regular thing all year long. I will never roll without my license again. Overall they seemed like pretty nice guys just doing their jobs. I think attitude plays a lot in interaction just like everywhere else.

06-06-2010, 09:08 AM	#9
1Flatfish Wayne Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 98	dfg Something else to think about: How many times do you just tell the DFG that you caught nothing to avoid any hassle? I am sadly guilty guilty of it. Then they think nobody is catching anything. Then others say there are no fish out there to catch, because nothing is being reported. Then they whip a little MLPA on us because the fish counts are so low. Is there anything to this? I don't know. But I am honest about what I catch now. Keep or release. Better information is better for all.

06-05-2010, 06:54 AM	#1
Hunters Pa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fullerton Posts: 1,361	Pretty sure the net is a requirement, which is why I bought the folding Promar. Makes you compliant. I'll look for the reg later today if the kids let me

06-05-2010, 06:14 PM	#2
bubblehide Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 552	I also like to see the DFG out there and feel like my license money is being utilized appropriately when there out there; only problem is that I hardly ever bump into them. But considering their proportion to the population hardly seeing them is understandable, there low numbers are not. Years ago I had a few bad run-ins with a particular DFG officer; I was never in violation, so I was assertive but cooperative with him and everything always ended fine. But I would rather have them treat me (as they usually do) and anyone with dignity and respect until the situation calls for something different.

06-05-2010, 08:45 PM	#4
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	2010-2011 regs for nets 28.55 or 28.27, respectively. (d) No gaff hook shall be used to take or assist in landing any finfish shorter than the minimum size limit. For the purpose of this section a gaff hook is any hook with or without a handle used to assist in landing fish or to take fish in such a manner that the fish does not take the hook voluntarily in its mouth. No person shall take finfish from any boat or other floating device in ocean waters without having a landing net in possession or available for immediate use to assist in landing undersize fish of species having minimum size limits; the opening of any such landing net shall be not less than eighteen inches in diameter.

06-07-2010, 11:36 AM	#10
Drew Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 45	I was checked yesterday after scuba diving in the LJ Cove. He checked my weight pockets, probably looking for shells? Abalone? I did see 3 abs - all more than 12" across...mmmmmmm. I'm always open and helpful with these checks - it's like others have said. I follow the rules and want them to find the bad guys. After the check he was very friendly, shared some chatter about the red tide and other dive locations he's seen that were cleaner than the shores. By the by - the cove dive was good - open vis and no red tide around the corner near boomers. Hospitals was clear on Thursday but covered when we checked it Saturday. Anyone seen Cardiff? Is it clear?