Love the wording for the South Coast region - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Iceman · 12-21-2010, 08:22 PM

"Poaching" in a reserve, they can confiscate all your gear and your yak if they wanted to really come down hard.

GregAndrew · 12-21-2010, 08:46 PM

CurtyL, it is in there under Appendix A. Not real clear though because it is actually 2 MPAs, a reserve and a conservation area.

M1, in a reserve there is no take or disturbance of any kind allowed. In a conservation area 1 or more things may be allowed. Some examples of allowed activities in specific conservation areas are: recreational bait fishing, commercial bait fishing, sand replenishment, recreational fishing for pelagics only, harpooning billfish (no really!!).

TMan, I think that "open and transparent" has got to be is the biggest joke of all. Either that, or calling the idiots a "science advisory team". The top 2 of them stated at the last BRTF meeting that the WSB were on the decline at the beginning of this incredible year of fishing for them.

dsafety · 12-21-2010, 09:36 PM

I expect that there will be a lot of sifting and shifting that goes one before we have to raise the angry banner of defiance on this issue. First there will be the legal challenges. If we lose that battle, there will be issue of enforcement. Is an unenforced regulation really a regulation. The 55 mph speed limit comes to mind.

Politicians will come and go before this thing gets sorted out. We can help influence who is in power when things really come to a head. The next few years will be an important time to make sure that we all make intelligent and well informed choices when we visit the ballot box.

While I am disappointed that a corrupt commission that does not represent the will of the people has issued this bogus decree, I do not believe that it will survive the challenges that have been mounted against it.

If I am wrong, and this thing really becomes law, you will surely see me in the fleet of defiant fishers who test the will of those who will try to make these proposed regulations stick. If I were a betting man, I would put my money on our side.

Bob

Hunters Pa · 12-21-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

"Poaching" in a reserve, they can confiscate all your gear and your yak if they wanted to really come down hard.

And whatever vehicle brought it there if they wait til you put as much as a hook back in your truck.

dfroggy54 · 12-22-2010, 07:49 AM

Talked to two game wardens last night. Both think entire process is bull. Both seemed to be completely over it and not looking forward to it.

Aaron&Julie · 12-22-2010, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

"Poaching" in a reserve, they can confiscate all your gear and your yak if they wanted to really come down hard.

Well, we certainly wouldn't want our gear confiscated. But, without a hook on the line, is it fishing?
"But, officer, I'm just straightening out my line, which is why I only have a sinker on".
I don't know, just the possibility of losing La Jolla is frustrating. If we all did get together for one massive protest on the possible closed area, maybe we'd get TV coverage (especially if they're contacted). But, by
then it'd probably be too late to overturn the decision.
In the future, we might have to go to Rocky Point to get our yellows and whites

Iceman · 12-22-2010, 07:34 PM

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In the future, we might have to go to Rocky Point to get our yellows and whites

They took that one too.

PAL · 12-22-2010, 09:06 PM

^They took Dume, not Rocky Pt.

12-21-2010, 08:22 PM	#1
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	"Poaching" in a reserve, they can confiscate all your gear and your yak if they wanted to really come down hard. __________________

12-22-2010, 07:49 AM	#5
dfroggy54 Rolly Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 245	Talked to two game wardens last night. Both think entire process is bull. Both seemed to be completely over it and not looking forward to it. __________________ I Fish. I catch. I Eat.

12-21-2010, 08:46 PM	#2
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	CurtyL, it is in there under Appendix A. Not real clear though because it is actually 2 MPAs, a reserve and a conservation area. M1, in a reserve there is no take or disturbance of any kind allowed. In a conservation area 1 or more things may be allowed. Some examples of allowed activities in specific conservation areas are: recreational bait fishing, commercial bait fishing, sand replenishment, recreational fishing for pelagics only, harpooning billfish (no really!!). TMan, I think that "open and transparent" has got to be is the biggest joke of all. Either that, or calling the idiots a "science advisory team". The top 2 of them stated at the last BRTF meeting that the WSB were on the decline at the beginning of this incredible year of fishing for them.

12-21-2010, 09:36 PM	#3
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	I expect that there will be a lot of sifting and shifting that goes one before we have to raise the angry banner of defiance on this issue. First there will be the legal challenges. If we lose that battle, there will be issue of enforcement. Is an unenforced regulation really a regulation. The 55 mph speed limit comes to mind. Politicians will come and go before this thing gets sorted out. We can help influence who is in power when things really come to a head. The next few years will be an important time to make sure that we all make intelligent and well informed choices when we visit the ballot box. While I am disappointed that a corrupt commission that does not represent the will of the people has issued this bogus decree, I do not believe that it will survive the challenges that have been mounted against it. If I am wrong, and this thing really becomes law, you will surely see me in the fleet of defiant fishers who test the will of those who will try to make these proposed regulations stick. If I were a betting man, I would put my money on our side. Bob

12-22-2010, 09:06 PM	#8
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	^They took Dume, not Rocky Pt.