Gaff length? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dorado50 · 07-07-2009, 09:04 AM

I have brought in both a wsb and yt by the gills and don't ever want to do it again. Really rakes the hands,ok for the moment but next few days not so cool. Not being a fan of long gaffs,I opt for shorter ones,no more than 24" and I perfer the 18" one. Large and long gaffs are a minus imo, just another item to help in the loss of a fish. A shorter gaff gives one much more control over the situation and does not hinder you by getting in the way. Having a gaff on board without a point protecter(rubber tip,cork,whatever)is just plain stupid.Some guys are out there waiting for an accident to happen......

Law Hand · 07-07-2009, 05:13 PM

Got tired of waiting, went into garage fired up the HAAS Lathe and made this.

Yes its TITANIUM (shaft, cap, and hook), yes it floats, yes it will never corrode, yes it can be made in just about any length.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...971/GAFF04.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...971/GAFF03.jpg

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...971/GAFF02.jpg

dorado50 · 07-08-2009, 10:21 AM

Why would you need lathe? The only way to make this would be, trepan a given diameter or weld titanium sheet. How could this possibly float if you grind ,or use lathe,a solid bar down to smaller dia.???? A solid ti bar is light but will not float! Want to refigure your process and or story so that at least I could understand and hopefully learn something new,thanks.

Law Hand · 07-08-2009, 11:41 AM

Its a tube, the caps are turned and threaded; as well as turning the tip on the hook. I also used a fixture to bend the hook. ( I have a lathe, just thought I would have some fun and put it to good use)

dorado50 · 07-08-2009, 11:57 AM

Yea, thats what I thought. You can't fool a fooler.........

SESSAGAFF · 07-08-2009, 12:08 PM

FOR THE RANGER 85 CHARTER IN VENTURA ,CA MY 24'' KAYACK GAFF WEIGHTS OUT TO 5 OZ WITH FLOCKED GRIP ON IT U CANT USE A SOLID PIPE U NEED SOME FLEX IN IT FOR JUKEING IT IN THE WATER

Law Hand · 07-08-2009, 01:53 PM

Dave,

What are you talking about? Fool a Fooler? I never said anything about my gaff being a bar. You made the mistake not me. As for my using a lathe, perhaps you would like to come on down yourself and get some CNC lessons.

dgax65 · 07-08-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dorado50

Why would you need lathe? The only way to make this would be, trepan a given diameter or weld titanium sheet. How could this possibly float if you grind ,or use lathe,a solid bar down to smaller dia.???? A solid ti bar is light but will not float! Want to refigure your process and or story so that at least I could understand and hopefully learn something new,thanks.

It is a good thing that an expert like Dave is all over this topic. I would hate for anybody to mislead the kayak fishing public about the properties or construction of a titanium gaff. The last thing we need to have in our community is somebody misrepresenting a substandard or non-conforming gaff as a true titanium gaff. That would be terribly unethical. I don't think you could get indicted for something like that, but it is wrong. Thanks again Dave for keeping this forum honest.

Law Hand · 07-08-2009, 11:28 PM

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It is a good thing that an expert like Dave is all over this topic. I would hate for anybody to mislead the kayak fishing public about the properties or construction of a titanium gaff. The last thing we need to have in our community is somebody misrepresenting a substandard or non-conforming gaff as a true titanium gaff. That would be terribly unethical. I don't think you could get indicted for something like that, but it is wrong. Thanks again Dave for keeping this forum honest.
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dorado50 · 07-09-2009, 11:41 AM

No problem Doug, I see you are an expert yourself on most everything related,even on things that you have no idea of whats going on!!!!!! LOL...

dgax65 · 07-09-2009, 01:54 PM

No worries Dave. Just couldn't pass on the wonderful irony of the whole situation.

joyjiggin' · 07-09-2009, 01:59 PM

Let put an end to this thread.....I know from experience that fisherwoman like me, prefer ours long, but not too long, stiffness is important and diameter must be of such to maintain a firm and solid grip..But hey...that’s just me..

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07-07-2009, 05:13 PM	#2
Law Hand Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 33	Got tired of waiting, went into garage fired up the HAAS Lathe and made this. Yes its TITANIUM (shaft, cap, and hook), yes it floats, yes it will never corrode, yes it can be made in just about any length. http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...971/GAFF04.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...971/GAFF03.jpg http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/o...971/GAFF02.jpg Last edited by Law Hand; 07-07-2009 at 05:33 PM.

07-08-2009, 12:08 PM	#6
SESSAGAFF Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ventura ,ca Posts: 44	ALL MY GAFFS FLOAT EVEN THE 12 FOOT ONE I MADE FOR THE RANGER 85 CHARTER IN VENTURA ,CA MY 24'' KAYACK GAFF WEIGHTS OUT TO 5 OZ WITH FLOCKED GRIP ON IT U CANT USE A SOLID PIPE U NEED SOME FLEX IN IT FOR JUKEING IT IN THE WATER

07-09-2009, 01:54 PM	#11
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	No worries Dave. Just couldn't pass on the wonderful irony of the whole situation. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

07-09-2009, 01:59 PM	#12
joyjiggin' Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 109	Let put an end to this thread.....I know from experience that fisherwoman like me, prefer ours long, but not too long, stiffness is important and diameter must be of such to maintain a firm and solid grip..But hey...that’s just me.. fficeffice" />>>

07-07-2009, 09:04 AM	#1
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	I have brought in both a wsb and yt by the gills and don't ever want to do it again. Really rakes the hands,ok for the moment but next few days not so cool. Not being a fan of long gaffs,I opt for shorter ones,no more than 24" and I perfer the 18" one. Large and long gaffs are a minus imo, just another item to help in the loss of a fish. A shorter gaff gives one much more control over the situation and does not hinder you by getting in the way. Having a gaff on board without a point protecter(rubber tip,cork,whatever)is just plain stupid.Some guys are out there waiting for an accident to happen......

07-08-2009, 10:21 AM	#3
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Why would you need lathe? The only way to make this would be, trepan a given diameter or weld titanium sheet. How could this possibly float if you grind ,or use lathe,a solid bar down to smaller dia.???? A solid ti bar is light but will not float! Want to refigure your process and or story so that at least I could understand and hopefully learn something new,thanks.

07-08-2009, 11:41 AM	#4
Law Hand Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 33	Its a tube, the caps are turned and threaded; as well as turning the tip on the hook. I also used a fixture to bend the hook. ( I have a lathe, just thought I would have some fun and put it to good use)

07-08-2009, 11:57 AM	#5
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Yea, thats what I thought. You can't fool a fooler.........

07-08-2009, 01:53 PM	#7
Law Hand Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 33	Dave, What are you talking about? Fool a Fooler? I never said anything about my gaff being a bar. You made the mistake not me. As for my using a lathe, perhaps you would like to come on down yourself and get some CNC lessons.

07-09-2009, 11:41 AM	#10
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	No problem Doug, I see you are an expert yourself on most everything related,even on things that you have no idea of whats going on!!!!!! LOL...